Thoughts on the MacBook Air
I had the misfortune of having a flight back to Atlanta during the same time the MacWorld 2008 keynote was set to take place. As soon as I landed I turned off airplane mode on my iPhone and loaded up some Apple news sites. First I saw an image and brief description of the MacBook Air and was relatively pleased, then I started reading more.
There were no doubt many announcements at today’s MacWorld Stevenote but for most people, MacBook Air takes the cookie. Other announcements included a wireless NAS dubbed Time Capsule and an Apple TV software update supporting HD iTunes movie rentals, Flickr browsing capability and more. The iPhone also receives a software update as well as iTunes to support movie rentals (apparently no HD rentals in iTunes just yet).
0.16 to 0.76 inches thick?!
What exactly is the MacBook Air? It’s an unbelievably thin 3lb notebook toting a 13.3-inch glossy LED-backlit display, 2GB of RAM, a 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo processor (1.8GHz C2D is $300 option), a larger touchpad with multi-touch capabilities, a 1.8-inch 80GB hard drive (64GB SSD is a $999 option), 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, and an iSight camera. It does however lack an Ethernet port and optical drive (not much of a loss with Remote Disk software allowing you to “borrow” another networked computer’s optical drive).
The MacBook Air looks absolutely stunning on paper. A thin, minimalist (only a MagSafe port, USB port, micro-DVI port and headphones jack with the latter three stowing away when not in use) notebook by Apple - what more could you want? A decent price for starters. Placed between the MacBook and MacBook Pro in the MacBook family, the MacBook Air starts at $1799 - I certainly didn’t expect that. I think their new ad campaign goes a little something like this…
MacBook Air: The only thing we didn’t shrink was the price.
If money wasn’t an issue, most geeks would be obligated to spring for the speedy $999 solid-state drive option, putting the price closer to $3,000. I absolutely understand the pricing situation though. New tech, especially ridiculously small tech, is expensive. Apple even coaxed Intel into reworking their Core 2 Duo processor to be 60% smaller, just for the MacBook Air.
Turn Offs
Nothing is user-replaceable. You get 2GB of RAM - that’s it. You can’t change it. The hard drive is the same way. It’s buried deep within the machine and unless you have a propensity for voiding warranties, you’re stuck with it. Oh and you guessed it, the battery can’t be replaced. Over a number of cycles battery life gets worse so you’ll inevitably be taking your MacBook Air to Apple to replace the battery in a few years.
The worst part about this for me is that I can’t bring extra batteries for when traveling or scuttling around conferences and consuming Wi-Fi. Well didn’t Steve say the battery lasted 5 hours? Yeah but he also said MacBook Pros get 4 hours of battery life, which as we all know is an absolute best case scenario. Typical use such as live blogging your favorite Mac conference would generally shed an hour of battery life from that 4 hour estimation. My estimation is the MacBook Air will have perhaps 4 hours of life. For a notebook so perfectly poised at being the ultimate travel computer, not being able to have spare batteries is a huge turn off. I would be able to put all of these issues to the side if Apple could somehow squeeze a 1440×900 resolution on the 13.3-inch display.
However, unlike Devin Coldewey at CrunchGear, I won’t be docking any cool points from the MacBook Air for not being an overly speedy notebook.
Next, the processor. It’s fantastic that they’ve managed to micro-size the Core2 Duo, but for any kind of serious work — video and audio editing, watching HD video, playing games or emulating Vista for work — even my MacBook Pro is barely pulling it, and it’s got the Air under its thumb processor-wise. Not to mention that RAM is totally un-expandable; serious Photoshoppers will spend a lot of time waiting while they use that nifty multi-touch to zoom into their 400MB uncompressed PSDs.
News flash to Devin people don’t buy ultraportable notebooks for their workstation-like performance. Enough said.
Verdict
Do I want one? Hell yes. Would I pay for one myself? Nope. What about you?
If i was always on the road with access to power when needed then yes i think i will get one. Just a little less bulk to handle than my SR MBP.
I’d never pay for this. Its a super duper overpriced laptop. But hey paul if you get one of these to lug around, I will take your macbook off your hands I need to get a laptop for my brother. His laptop = water damage.
OMG, I just got my macbook a week back and I totally love it. And now, apple comes up with the AIR !!! Its totally cool..
I guess I might as well turn into Apple’s Indian Brand Ambassador :) :)
I think that this machine will not make a good primary notebook, you got the MacBook and MBP for that but it would make a really good secondary notebook. If I had the money I would pre-order it right now. I don’t need an optical drive, I got one in my 24″ iMac which would also take care of my home movies, photos, music and what not, but for a device I can just grab with me and use to browse the net or to work on while I’m not at home I think the MBA fits for my use. Take out the work part though and I just need an iPod Touch :)
Innit wireless-only? No ethernet, no thank-you.
@Strully - There’s a $29 USB Ethernet dongle, but you’re right - no Ethernet integrated.
I have the same feelings towards the MBA. When I saw Wired’s mockups yesterday, I was ready to consider dropping somewhere between $999 and $1299 to get one. That changed once I heard Steve say the actual price. Perhaps in a year or two, once ultra-portables become a larger market, the price will drop and I may reconsider it. But until then, I’m with you Paul. However, I now have a reason to jump up to the valley and visit an Apple Store in a couple weeks.
I am seriously considering one. I have both a mac pro and black macbook.
The mac pro is more than enough for my heavy duty usage and the macbook acts only as a mobile office when on the road. I’m never doing anything too intensive, just email, checking stocks, surfing and listening to mp3’s.
The sheer thinness is so damn attractive but I am concerned about the lack of ethernet and inability to upgrade. I’m going to have to really think about what I can and cannot live with.
As for my thoughts on the Macbook Air, I think this product is going to attract a lot of mobile professionals / prosumers. It’s definitely stronger under the hood than your average UMPC which is usually a Intel Core Solo 1.2ghz with a paltry 512mb of RAM. And cheaper too for the most part. Combine that with the Apple experience — a lot of potential switchers just got sold.
If I won one, or was given one at some press junkie- you never know, I might… then I would happily give a Macbook Air a place in my heart and a lap to sit in a purr quietly to itself…
But no way would I buy one. If I had to get a laptop it would be a Macbook Pro, but it is too expensive and actually too limiting for the kinda things I want to do with a laptop. Looks nice though, I have to admit.
I wouldn’t buy one at this point, but then again I’m not the target audience for a notebook like this. I love my MacBook Pro, it’s portable, slick and powerful enough to be my primary workstation.
But for the road warriors who are looking for a relatively large display, an incredible form factor and absolutely stunning aesthetics: the MacBook Air is their answer.
I wouldn’t be willing to pay that much for the MacBook Air. The price margin seems much greater than the portability margin (not that it’s the only differentiating factor,) between the MacBook and MacBook Air, and I think that the MacBook is a better overall value.
I would absolutely not put down my own money for this. No, no, no, no, no. The iPhone is the real ultraportable in Apple’s lineup these days. I don’t even bother packing a laptop anymore.
I’d also seriously consider rejecting the business case behind purchasing one of these vs. a MacBook Pro + iPhone. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, and there are far better subnotebooks out there right now. (Admittedly, they don’t run OS X.)
All that said, there are some intelligent comments above about how much the MacBook Air appeals to people. I’d love to hear more about why, because I feel like I’m missing something fundamental about its pull.
I think MBA isn’t over prices, it’s expensive yes, but every new kind of tech stuff is always more expensive. I believe people who will get this notebook, will buy because they need a light weight and thin nb, to take on a trip for example. If you are a power user, go and buy a MacBook Pro. Apple is thinking that everywhere you go there always will be wireless networks, and that can screw you sometimes. But I like the idea of MBA, in the future notebooks will be like this one, and that will be cool! :)
I think the MBA is a cool device, but I honestly don’t know what the market is for it (iPhone is more portable, MacBook Pro is better value…then again, I dont have any Mac products).
I was really hoping for a 16GB iPhone to be announced…I didn’t open my Christmas iPhone for 3 weeks and all for naught now. Hell, I could’ve bought it 4 months ago, but I was sure they’d release a bigger capacity one. Oh well, time to go open my new playtoy!
I would never pay for one either. I think the MBA is a pretty sleek product as expected. I just don’t see why I wouldn’t just bring my MBP. I mean, its not that big that its a hassle to bring around. My friend really wants one so I let him write a guest post on my blog providing his initial thoughts some of which are similar to yours Paul!
check it:
http://www.toonice4tv.com/2008/01/15/macbook-air-intial-thoughts-and-7-concerns/
I agree with what most people here have said: not worth it as a primary machine, but it does look pretty cool.
I could imagine having an iMac on my desk and taking this one to uni with me. It’s perfect to slide into a Crumpler bag and take into a lecture for some quick notes… but to stick it on my desk? No thanks.
Those of us who have been buying small laptops for a long time won’t be buying this machine at all. The Sony TZ is a much better laptop. Paul’s post demonstrates something very few about Apple products. Yes everyone wants one because of the hype. However, how many are actually willing to pay with their hard earned cash? I know I won’t be because the small laptop market has tons of better choices than the MBA.
only 1 usb? No thanks. Means I would have to pack a hub along with my other stuff, and then most USB harddrives already overload a single mac USB port (no problems on a PC however) so cant be used on this without unplugging the mouse.
What were they thinking? And once again a non standard display connector so that I have to shell out for an adaptor to use a projector.
To me this is an exercise in “because we can” not one in “because people want it” - and the other announcements were a bit of a downer too. Most disappointing keynote to date IMO
“Apple even coaxed Intel into reworking their Core 2 Duo processor to be 60% smaller, just for the MacBook Air.”
Unless I am mistaken, Intel went from 65nm to 45nm tech to increase profit margins, decrease power consumption, and in the process incorporated their high-k/metal gates which greatly improved current leakage within said gates. Now Apple, a small blip on the grand scale of things, had nothing to do with this advancement, frankly they’ve gone so far away from core hardware development that it’s a good thing they dropped the word Computer from their name. Now feel free to correct me on this statement, but I’m pretty certain you’ll have trouble with that one.
Everything else, I agree with. If I had the bankroll to afford this then I’d easily drop my Macbook for this slender plastic and silicon sandwich but I don’t and even if I were to stretch the wallet, the non-user configurable memory and non-removable battery turn this into a glorified iPhone-esque product. Anyways, that’s my mini-rant, keeps me from having to make my own post about this product. Maybe once this product is out of the public beta Apple will correct a few of it’s “features”.
While I think it’s absolutely amazing and I love the new trackpad/wireless optical drive sharing, I actually use my macbook as my main machine–and the Air is obviously not meant for that at all. If I had a $3k to throw around, I’d love to have one, but there’s no way I can justify that for something that can really only be used for travel purposes.
Like most of you, I can’t justify the cost of the MBA. However, I think it’s a huge step in the right direction for Apple. I can see a lot of people who would have a need for a machine such as this. Everything is going wireless nowadays. The MBA would make the perfect coffee shop computer, and it’d be awesome for casual users who just want to check their mail, surf the web, watch videos and chat to people. It just seems to be that the target audience for a product such as this wouldn’t be able to justify the cost either. Perhaps, in time, the price will drop to a level that seems fair. I suppose Apple need to somehow pay for all the R&D that went into building this machine.
I don’t have a use for the MBA, personally. I definitely wouldn’t shell out the money for one. But I’m really glad Apple produced it. Now they’re a step forward in the ultra portable market, others will follow, and there will be some healthy competition going on, which will mean better products and better prices for consumers.
I personally would love to have one of these. However, I rarely travel so I don’t really have a use for it. I think my dad will probably buy one though.
The target audience being that which will most likely require business oriented setup - I once again am disappointed at the fact that there’s no docking station provided.
Interesting consensus - “ooh!, but $$$ = no” I’m with that too.
What I want is for some of these components to “leak” to the other MacBooks- the glow keyboard for the Macbooks, and the track pad for both the MBP and MB.
Total waste of money! Over priced and under built. One for the fan boys and poserts that don’t actually do that much with their Mac anyway :-)
The MacBook Air is undoubtedly a notebook to lust after. But that price definitely puts it into perspective, and no, I sure won’t pay for one myself.
They took so many things off the Air…
If they’d take off one more, I’d buy it.
The keyboard.
A tablet in this form factor, with these specs, with some Apple software magic tossed around as a combination of Mac OS X, the iPhone OS X, and Newton… hell, yes. It wouldn’t replace the MacBook Pro that’s my primary computer, but it would accompany me just about everywhere.
As is… the MacBook Air would be a fun toy, and if someone gave me one for free, I wouldn’t sell it on eBay… but I’ll save my money until Apple figures out a way to amaze us with a tablet.
I am completely underwhelmed. I’ll pass.
Awesome machine I just don’t think they make machines as powerful as I want them in that size
There is a lot to like here, but I have two big issues:
One: the footprint isn’t any smaller than a MacBook. It’s just thinner and lighter. Light is good. Thin… meh. I’d definitely rather have something more along the lines of the Sony VAIO TZ in terms of size.
Two: no ExpressCard slot and no built-in EVDO. Ubiquitous broadband will require a USB dongle. And if you wanted to do anything else with the USB port, it’d require a USB hub.
I was considering this for my wife … but then I thought about it a little more. It’s not any smaller than the MacBook, except in thickness. She wouldn’t be able to watch DVDs on it (no way in hell do we buy DRM’d videos in this household). It’s significantly more expensive and moderately less capable. No user-replaceable batter. This would be her primary machine for the next 4 or 5 years, so that would certainly be an issue.
If it fit in her purse like the VAIO would, all would be well. But it doesn’t, so I’m thinking that a MacBook is a better choice for her.
I am Mac user myself. I had my first Aluminum Powerbook G4 when it came out back in 2004 and now have a new 20″ iMac and very happy with them so far.
I was excited for a moment when the AIR was announced then I realized how bad that decision was on Apple’s part. I think that Apple just shot itself in the foot when they announced AIR. The first question that comes to my mind is “WHY?” there must be a purpose for the AIR to exist. I think that purpose has been already filled by the iBook, Powerbook and then the MB and MBP after them.
I mean, the MBs and MBPs are already 1″ thin, and not that heavy to travel with, plus you can expand them with more RAM, spare batteries. I am amazed that the AIR’s pencil-size-wide motherboard along with integrated graphics could run Leopard in all of it’s power and beauty, Are you kidding me?
I think Dell’s XPS 1330 put this AIR to shame IMHO.
Thanks Paul for this article.
Just like everyone initially questioned the iPhone and said they were not going to get one, everyone is second-guessing the Air. Let us look to a little history:
http://paulstamatiou.com/2007/06/04/iphone-on-june-29th-but-not-for-me/
Kidding of course, Paul, but there is some truth here. It might be trendy for the next few weeks to hate on the Macbook Air, but once everyone sees/uses it they will be converted. As you mentioned, it is not a primary machine. It is a complementary one. I am not sure what all the people clamoring for an ‘ultraportable’ were looking for, but this is it.
when i first heard that apple were releasing a new version of the MacBook, i thought it would be something good but im somewhat disappointed at their efforts. personally, i hate the design of the casing, the uneven base just puts me off it. im using a macbook with better specs that the MacBook Air and it cost me £400 (about $600-$700) less than the MacBook Air would if i were to buy one. if i wanted an upgrade, i’d definitly but the MacBook Pro but im quite happy with my new MacBook with the updated graphics and 2.2GHz processor.
You’ll take it to Apple to get a new battery in a few years?
Cmon, be honest. No way you will still be using the same Macbook Air in a few years! You will have whatever is the newest greatest Mac at that time.
Everyone complains about the Ipod battery being fixed too, and you know what, it just doesn’t matter, cause most people get a new Ipod long before it wears out.
@Chris Morrell i think you are talking out your ass Chris. Can’t even be bothered to try and make you look like a muppet. Oh by the way, the MBA is aluminum not plastic….. do your research before you post such drivel.
it’d be an awesome second computer… but it costs too much to be a second computer.
I didn’t think it was to far out of price range. Have you seen the prices for all ultra portable computers? They are not cheap.
It looks like Sony came up with something thinner four years back in the form of the X505. Sony said that thinness wasn’t what consumers care for as much as functionality, thus the TZ that we see today:
http://gizmodo.com/345829/interview-sonys-thoughts-on-the-macbook-air
I would rather have a Mac Pro. Eight cores are more irresistible than an SSD for a +$3000 tag, and who doesn’t want to pilot eight 30″ Cinema displays from one machine?
I’ll be keeping my MBP thank you very much. While I’m sure the MBA will be super sexy and drool worthy, it doesn’t fit my needs or budget. I got a laptop to replace a desktop, the MBA is like a companion device more than a desktop replacement. People replacing desktops is what’s driving laptop sales.
I’m with Paul on this one. As sexy as this thing looks, it’s just not worth it for the price, the lack of replaceable battery and other hardware, etc.
I wouldn’t purchase one. I would rather have a nice 15″ MacBook Pro that can do more, and be more “all-purpose”.
Sure, I want it, but still, seems useless (to me, at least).
This laptop makes my 17′ PowerBook G4 look so bulky comparing. But not ready to replace it yet.
The price is a major setback for most people I’ve spoken to. I do want one but a souped-up MacBook or MacBook Pro is a better choice.
I took some photos when i was down at MacWorld on tuesday. I took a size comparison image the the MacBook Air with my Dell m1530. It’s quite impressive to see how small the apple laptop really is. More people would buy it if it was cheaper. I feel getting a regular macbook is a better choice than the Air right now.
pics I took:
http://skattertech.com/2008/01/macworld-2008-macbook-air/
I just don’t see what the point is, honestly. I say shave a couple of pounds off the regular MacBook, add the multitouch, and make the LED screen/SSD/backlit keyboard optional features. There’s no reason to create an entirely new product for such minor improvements. I do recognize how impressive it is to get a notebook that thin, but I’m sure more people would appreciate regular MacBooks at their current size that weigh less. Both Sony and Dell have ~3lb 13.3″ models without needing to cut features/power, so I’m sure Apple is more than capable of doing the same.
The Air is a huge disappointment! Looks like SteveJobs just wants to rip us off again. C’mon, irreplaceble battery, no spares… you gotta be kidding! This is a laptop, wifi, multimedia, long range plane rides…. no spare batteries! This is why Job sucks! Go ahead and spend your money for this jerk!
I want one, but instead of buying one, I will just intercept all internal mail envelopes until I get lucky.
I would love to have one, however, I think what most people will see is the price difference between the Macbook Pro and the Air and will mostly decide on the Pro because of its speed and power
Apple needs to be at the head of the pack in terms of design, sex appeal, coolness, etc, so in that regard, the MacBook Air is a perfect fit.
Apple has been slowly closing out the user-upgrade experience/ability for a while now. This isn’t surprising, just disappointing.
Improvements will take a long time to filter down to the MacBook. As a college student, I’m thrilled with my MacBook. It’s not perfect, but it suits my needs very well and provides a phenomenal user experience, so I’m a very satisfied customer.
As long as Apple stays ahead of the game with usability/software, design, and consumer appeal/coolness, I think they’ll continue to grow.
It is 2008 and the most feature I look for when on the road with clients is 3G wireless connectivity. Regardless of all the bad aspects of this machine, if Apple had included 3G support, I would have bought one.
A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
That’s what it is!
Not a small computer but a very big PDA for people who are tired of small print!!
Just great, love it!
It’s too expensive. Add the 64GB SSD drive and it’s extremely prohibitive.
No optical drive. This means you have to beg others to let you install a software Apple gave you on their PC so you have access to their drive.
No ethernet port. That makes the Remote Disk software useless if the PC you’re trying to connect to doesn’t have wireless.
Only 1 USB port. So you’ll need a USB hub, one more thing to carry around… that’s not portability
Battery not user Replaceable Unlike 99% of other laptops out there, the battery is not user replaceable.
Mono Speakers The built in speakers on the Macbook Air are weak and sound airy (sorry) from the hands-on videos so far. Worst of all, they’re mono, not stereo! Are we back in the 90s?
Fixed RAM The Macbook Air ships with 2GB of RAM by default. This RAM is onboard though, meaning there is no option to upgrade or to add more RAM.
Slow Processor 1.6 C2D by default is amongst the slowest Core 2 Duo processors you can get.
Slow 1.8? Hard drive The base model comes with a 1.8? hard drive. As most computer enthusiasts know, 1.8? hard drives top out at 4,200rpm
http://mbp12.com
Hi Paul!
Your blog is very interesting.
I d like to share some thought with you about the MacBook Air.
I am writing this on a MacBook Pro.
This is my 4th Apple laptop since 1999. So, let me share my experience with Apple laptops. Maybe you ll understand why I d suggest the MacBook Air.
Especially as a second computer, designed for travelers, educators, businessmen etc.
Battery Problems? What problems?:
I haven’t replaced a battery in none of the Apple laptops I ever had.
I cannot understand why it’s such a big issue to replace it after 2 or 3 years in an Apple Store. Nowadays Apple is having so many Apple Store around and replacing a battery is not such a huge problem.
129 $ is a fair price.
2. RAM? They must be kidding!
My MacBook Pro has 2 Gb of RAM.
My first Apple notebook (PowerBook Lombard had only 256 MB in 1999. My Titanium PowerBook had only 512 in 2001)
I am using Adobe Photoshop, Synthetik Studio Artist (a very heavy program that still runs under Rosetta) and other serious graphics software very fast.
I cannot understand what Devin Coldewey at CrunchGear is saying. Until less than 2 years ago no laptop could take more than 2 Gb of RAM.
Till 2 years ago Photoshop couldn’t see more than 3 GB of RAM.
It’s so silly to pretend that an ultra thin laptop could take more than 2 Gb of RAM.
I am a graphic designer and I own a studio. We have 5 Macs working right now. Only two of them can take more than 2 Gb of RAM. And we are pros.
I think that 2 Gb of RAM are enough for most of the people who are going to buy a MacBook Air.
If someone has to deal with files so large as a 400 GB PSD file he buys a MacPro. A file so big is something like 4.000 x 4.000 pixels with many layers and channels. I am sure that for a file so big the first problem is not RAM. It’s the screen resolution.
So let’s be serious. Only a tiny percentage of the laptop users would need to work on files such as this on a laptop.
3. Optical. Bury it forever, Steve!:
The first part that died on every computer I ever had was the optical drive.
CDs and DVDs are so 90s technology. They re not safe for back up, as they often get damaged. Going forward to wireless backup is the logical next step for the whole computer industry. I could bet that in 2 years from now there are not going to be optical drives anymore.
Apple is sending a message to the world with this move.
He did it in the past buring the floppy drive, the modem and the MMS on iPhone. These technologies are not for today.
4. Price:
1800 dollar is a fair price for something like this.
Having a so advanced technology like the new Core Duo is not as chip as we everyone wanted.
And MacBook Air is fairly priced if you see the competition.
But, I d like to mention here that my first PowerBook (1999) costed something like 3.000 $. I had to pay 4.500 $ for a Titanium PowerBook in 2001. 1.800 for a laptop that is so tiny, so light and so powerful in 2008 is really a fair deal.
5. Gestures!
I left this for the end.
Gestures are the future, even though it’s not a new thing.
Apple bought Fingerworks three years ago to bring the touch screen capabilities to the new era. I am happy that Apple is moving toward this direction.
You asked if we re going to buy the new MacBook Air.
As my MacBook Pro 2.16 Hz is still yound (bought it in November 2006) I am not ready to replace it. But my wife is going to buy a MacBook Air to replace her PowerBook G4/1GHz she bought in 2004.
For what she is using her laptop, MacBook Air is a great solution.
Nice to meet you. Greetings from Athens, Greece.
As I can understand from your name, you have to have greek origins too.
Charis Tsevis
This is amazingly cool and all (no surprises there), but looking at the feature set, it seems to be targeted at a very very specific niche market. I don’t understand it. I also read somewhere that it’s just as WIDE as the macbook. So its just a thin Macbook. Does that really make it any MORE portable?
For what it is, yes I would buy it. Its not meant to be a primary machine!
Its wonderful for what it is meant for. Something to take with you when you need to do some quick coding.
I carry a little Sharp mm20: under 2 lbs and 0.78 thick at thickest point -but has a much smaller footprint than the air. Also no optical drive, (my own ssd mod) its great for what I use it for, but not my primary computer by any means.
-Ezra Hilyer - http://www.straypoetry.com
Honestly,
its really ATTRACTVE…since its soo light and thin! But over a long term..a person would get sick of it…since there are very few functions! The question is if someone wants a pretty laptop or a practical laptop?
$1000.00 of the price of any Mac is for shipping it out of China. Cult leader Steve Jobs outsources the building of Mac laptops to the Chinese in Shanghai, thus taking jobs away from Americans, and making us pay the freight. I worked for Apple for a year and 3 months, and quit. I could not stand the arrogance.
“Would I pay for one myself? Nope.” — Paul
I like how a little time and patience changes things.