Last week I made the upgrade from the Nikon D80 to the new Nikon D90. The D90′s claim to fame is that it is first DSLR camera to feature video recording. This lets me consolidate my gadgets as I just gave back my loaned Samsung SC-HMX10C HD camcorder. The D90 bundle comes with the new Nikon 18-105mm VR lens and retails for around $1,300 USD.
Basics
Some of the highlights of the Nikon D90 are below:
- 12.3 megapixel CMOS with integrated dust reduction
- 3-inch rear LCD
- Live View
- D-Movie video recording up to 720p (HD)
- Face Detection
- 18-105mm VR lens
- Support for external GPS module
- Active D-lighting
- Great ISO range and low-noise shots
- 4.5 shots per second
Before I jump right into the D90′s video recording, I must stress how much of a leap the D90 is from the D80 in terms of still photography features and performance. First off, it comes with a VR lens. Not many lower-end Nikon kits have come with this type of lens, which stands for vibration reduction. It makes for a great general purpose lens, but as Ken Rockwell points out it’s “Nikon’s fuzziest lens in the corners at 18mm.” That being said, if this matters much to you, I’d just buy the D90 body and opt for arguably one of the best all-around lenses, the $660 Nikon 18-200mm VR lens.
The first thing I liked about the D90 was the upgraded screen. It’s considerably larger and makes it easier to see if your shot was a success without digging in too deep. Next, I love Active D-Lighting. I only know a few things here and there about photography, so having it automatically adjust settings and “preserve details in highlights and shadows” and create photos with natural contrast is a big plus.
Then I noticed an Eye-Fi option in the menu. The D90 supports the Eye-Fi wireless SD card right out of the box, so you don’t have to dig through settings to get it to work properly, as you did in the past. However, I did notice one problem with using the Eye-Fi on the D90. It isn’t fast enough to save videos and holds up the camera for up to a minute when saving a recorded video.
The D90 totes features first introduced in cameras like the D300. For example, Live View is now offered on the D90. Live View brings back the familiar point-and-shoot style of shooting where you can use the LCD as a viewfinder. And with the D90′s spiffy 3-inch rear LCD, it’s fun to use. The main benefit of using Live View is being able to fine tune what your photo looks like by being able to zoom in digitally and then see how you should adjust your focus and other settings to achieve the look you’re going for. However, in Live View mode auto-focusing is very slow as the D90 tries to use face detection.
Nikon D90 Live View – Using LCD as Viewfinder
As I stated in my Nikon D300 post, most hobbyist photographers won’t use Live View.
Video Recording
Once in the Live View mode on the D90, you can tap the OK button to begin recording a video clip. While the idea of being able to record video on a DSLR where you can swap out lenses and fine tune advanced settings (things that would only come with a camcorder costing many thousands) is awe-inspiring, the video recording implementation on the D90 has some deal-breaking drawbacks.
Example videos in HD: Kickball game pan, Jeep off-roading in Utah
In HD mode (720p/24fps in an .avi file) the D90 can only record a maximum of 5 minutes, otherwise the CMOS sensor will overheat. Standard definition will let you roll for 20 minutes. Right off the bat, it’s no replacement for a regular HD camcorder for most uses. Autofocus only works before you begin recording, so after it starts recording you’ll have to manually focus when necessary. And last but not least, the infamous “rolling shutter/jelly motion” issue. When moving fast, the video appears to flex noticeably. This is due to the CMOS sensor having a slow read-reset – a general problem with still cameras. You won’t run into this issue much if you do graceful pans and use a tripod instead of rapidly turning it around.
So there you have it. Video recording, or D-Movie as Nikon calls it, in the D90 is more of a “look what I can do” feature rather than a full on replacement for your camcorder. It’s neat to play around with and record a few short clips, but I wouldn’t want to have my parents record my college graduation with it.
Example Shots
I took the D90 with the VR lens to one of my kickball games and to a Skribit meeting at Octane Coffee. Here are a few photos that stood out from the rest. Photoshop only used for cropping and resizing. You can click for a larger version.
Piedmont Park, Atlanta, GA. Taken with included 18-105mm VR lens.
Piedmont Park, Atlanta, GA. Taken with included 18-105mm VR lens.
Me at Octane Coffee, Atlanta, GA. Taken with Nikon 28-70mm lens. Could have been better with a bit less exposure, natural light in front of me.
Octane Coffee, Atlanta, GA. Taken with Nikon 28-70mm lens.
Thoughts
The Nikon D90 is a substantial step-up from its D80 predecessor and boasts features previously only found on the Nikon D300 and D3. However, the D90 is aimed at budding photographers with a bit of money to invest and as such Nikon has added features that point-and-shoot users have come to expect like face detection, live view and video recording. While these features are welcomed additions to the D90, I still think they have some work left before they can even be considered key selling points.
Regardless of those issues, the core still photography utility is fantastic and makes the D90 a great platform for any amateur photographer. Pick up a nice lens and filter and you’ll be very happy. That being said, I recommend you buy the D90 body alone and pick out your own lens. The Nikon D90 gets 9 out of 10 Stammys.
Note: I have yet to be in a situation to test out the low light and high ISO aspects of the D90, which are apparently amazing.
What else would you like to know about the D90? I’ll answer in the comments. What do you think is the best all-around lens?
Seems pretty dope, but I think I’m going to opt for the Sony T700 you wrote about.
Great review though I’d really love to see what the D90 can do with the ISO kicked all the way up! (Perhaps a part 2?) :)
I have to say I’m becoming more and more impressed with Nikon and if I didn’t already have so much invested in Canon, I’d probably consider converting. They’ve really stepped up their game and though I don’t really think I’d ever use the video feature, the D90 seems like a great camera for someone just starting out in photography. I do wish they would address some usability issues. I consider Nikon more of a 2-handed camera and Canon more of a 1-handed based on where they’ve placed the controls.
I’ve shot with the Nikon D700 and the D3 and I’ve been blown away with the images they can capture when you put some decent lenses on them. If I were starting from scratch now I think it would be much more difficult for me to choose between Nikon and Canon now than it was a few years ago when I started stocking up on Canon gear!
Stick with your Canon, I have always had Canon but decided to get the D90. It is always in getting repaired! If you google Nikon D90 error you will see his is a reocurring problem that they do not seem to be able to fix. My cStick with your Canon, I have always had Canon but decided to get the D90. It is always in getting repaired! If you google Nikon D90 error you will see his is a reocurring problem Nikon D90 was bought as a gift for me from Future Shop they will not replace the camera and each time it gets sent out to be repaired it is gone for 8 weeks or more. hen I get it back it works for about 3 days & then I start getting an error again. When the Nikon D90 works it takes great pictures but you can not rely on it taking a picture.
I can echo your review on the D90. I’ve had mine almost a month now and I’ve been very happy with it. Of course the video “jelly motion” and lack of auto focus are causes for concern, but otherwise it’s hard to find a lot of faults with this camera.
I really think the low light performance is great for this price range. You’re getting the D300 sensor out of the whole deal, so you will get near D300 results.
I took over 1200 pictures my first weekend with my camera as a nice ‘break in’ and I was very impressed with how it did. Battery life is also very respectable.
Just wanted to put in my .02 on this “jelly effect”. I think that the root causes of the jelly effect – #1 panning and #2 zooming, are two of the most irritating camera movements available to a filmmaker. If either are done poorly, which is very frequently, the result is a scene that almost always causes the viewer to suspend their viewing moment, refocus, and start over – REGARDLESS of the camera. Done correctly pans and zooms are slow and subtle and allow the viewer to continue in their focused moment of viewing your video. Coincidentally a pan or zoom done correctly, almost always is correctly handled by the camera and its hardware.
If your primary concern its shoting video with your camera, I think -you better get a point-and-shoot camera with video built-in, but for being a Nikon Camera and a DSLR, I think its a great feature.
Another cool feature is the 18-105mm VR lens!
@Brenton – they may share a similar sensor but technically i think the D300 is 14-bit and the D90 is 12-bit due to differences in the A/D converters/image processors.
The D300 also has a higher continuous shooting rate because it offloads the sensor through more simultaneous channels to memory. I believe it’s 7 fps versus 4 or 4.5.
I have heard so much about the “jelly” motion effect that I want to sponsor a contest to see who can do the most creative short video using the jelly effect on purpose. I might call it the PB&J awards.
Sweet review. I was thinking of upgrading to the D90 from my current D40 at some point here.
Speaking of lenses, I absolutely love my 55-200 VR lens. It really is amazing how it can take decently sharp pictures in low light. I don’t know how photographers survived without VR.
Being Canon-biased, I’m rather pleased that the 5DmkII and its 1080p video is jelly free for twice the cost (body only)…
I guess you had better update the My Gear section in your footer. Nice review.
Hey i love all of your reviews. Whats the body like weight/ruggedness wise? I liked all of Nikons old film cameras because they were built like tanks. My canon (XT) has seen a few tumbles and has faired pretty well, how would you think this would compare?
Thanks for the review, I was particularly interested to know how the video recording capabilities fared, apparently not too stellar as I suspected. I think I’ll be sticking to my trusty D40, which is small and comfortable to bring wherever I go. For lens I love my Nikon VR 18-55mm.
What is the sensor size of D90?
The jelly mode is inherent to all CMOS based cameras. The D90 exhibits it to an extent as well as the new Canon 5D Mark II. Unless a global shutter is used in these cameras, or they completely redesign the CMOS chipset, it will continue to be a slight drawback in all CMOS cameras/camcorders.
You can however, whether it be Canon or Nikon, reduce the jelly effect dramatically by using good technique and/or a tripod. There are certain “no no’s” when shooting video, and those are pans that happen to quickly, as well as excessive or quick zooming in and out. These are the types of shooting that cause the jelly effect, and you shouldn’t be doing them in the first place if you desire a final product that others will like to watch without getting nauseated.
What I want to know is how you afford all of these gadgets.
@Raj, 23.6 x 15.8 mm same as D80, D60 and D40 models. It has 12.3 megapixels as opposed to 10.2 for the D80 and D60 and 6 for the D40.
@Raj, 23.6 x 15.8 mm same as D80, D60 and D40 models. It has 12.3 megapixels as opposed to 10.2 for the D80 and D60 and 6 for the D40.
@PStam, I’d have to say that the best lens is the 18-200 VR. Ken Rockwell raves about it, and everyone I know that has one loves it.
@ natan. Thanks for the information. I think the quality of the picture depends on the sensor size rather than the mega pixels.
Just got back from 10 day vacation where I put my new D90 through its paces.
My previous camera was the D70.
I experienced problems with my D90 where it wouldn’t autofocus sometimes. I had to turn it off and on, then it worked. Whenever I switched to Auto mode, it would not register until I turned the camera OFF/ON. I also got a flashing E on the display next to the power button and again I had to turn it OFF and ON.
I was told that there is already a firmware upgrade to the D90. Is this correct? I am strongly considering to return this camera.
I’ve had this same problem. Originally purchased from BestBuy in Sep 08. After about 2 months it stopped autofocusing and the top data screen would go blank and ultimately produce an “err” in the top data screen. Only way to get rid of the problem was to open batt door to “reboot” the camera. I took it back to BB and they sent it off. It came back in 1 week and they stated that the CCD image processor was bad and was replaced. Anxious to see it work, I put my card in and turned it on, and low and behold, the original problem was still there. I showed the Geek behind the counter and he verified that the camera would not autofocus, take pictures and even verified the “err” in the data window. The store manager opted to replace the body 1 for 1. I agreed and we made the swap and out the door I went. Well, about 2 weeks later it started doing the same thing. took it back to BB today and told them the whole story and instead of swapping out the lens like I thought they would, they shipped the new body, old lens back to where ever they send these things. So, in the past 4 months I’ve been to Boston at the height of leave color changing, London and Germany, and only managed to get about 150 shots. I’m sure it’s a great camera, but I can’t prove it.
I”m getting the same problems as well: Doesn’t auto focus/doesn’t shoot. Or if in manual, doesn’t shoot. Or sometimes on auto it doesn’t focus and captures a black frame. I dealt with this all day today while shooting close to 500 pieces of art. What a mess. I tried turn off/turn on, remove battery/put back in, replace battery and finally slightly twisting off the lens and then back on again. That trick seemed to work the longest before camera acted up again. I experienced a similar scenario with another D90 and exchanged it for the current one. Now I’m about to send this back and exchange for a different camera altogether unless I can find a solution. Any solutions out there? I’m concerned I either have received 2 lemons or this camera has some major issues.
Hi Stephanie,
Wanted to chime in that I ALSO went through two D-90s in Nov/Dec 2008 that demonstrated the CHA ERR message. They would freeze up and stop shooting. I did an even exchange for a second body and got the same problem. Clearly, a manufacturer defect.
Curious what camera you ended up buying? I’d like to get something else but wanted comparable capabilities. Thanks!
had 2 d90 with the same problem ,also my daughter is on her 2nd camera .I hope there is a fix
I’m happy to see I’m not alone on this one. My NIkon D90 is great when it’s working, but on a recent trip to Italy, on the first day, it wouldn’t take pictures at all and I was panicking. At a repair shop, the technician took off the lens, cleaned the contacts and it worked like a charm. However, soon after that, I began getting the dreaded “Err..” signal. I wound up opening the battery compartment and pushing up against the battery to re-establish contact. How annoying…I must have done this 50 times during my trip. I did get great pictures, but now there is a whole new problem. My camera functions, but the screen has become nothing but a series of horizontal and vertical lines, so there is no menu and I can’t see what I’m doing. Not good. I have never dropped the camera so I’m thinking design or manufacturer defect. For such an expensive and much-touted piece of equipment, this should not be happening.
I have had the same “err” problem. I was told, by Nikon, that it had to be sent in. Ritz Camera sent it away for me. It came back after a few weeks and did the same thing. I do not enjoy paying for something that does not work. Ritz replaced the whole camera and lens kit. Now, the new one does the same thing. Nikon had the nerve to accuse Ritz of selling defective (never opened, brand new) equipment, since they were going out of business. — the company lost a lot of respect with that comment. I am sending this one back (since it is obviously a manufacturer’s design defect), and seeking greener pastures. How does a company build something that just does not work? Where is the recall? Where is the taking ownership of the problem? I have read that the D300 pops up with similar errors. It can’t just be user error.
Obviously the D90 has manufacturer’s defects, or there wouldn’t be so many of us who have had the same problem. I wound up sending mine to Photo Tech on 14th St. in NY, and I heartily recommend them. They replaced the digital board and checked out the battery compartment. Since then, I have had no trouble with my camera and I’m getting some terrific shots. Maybe I’m just lucky. Nikon should own up to these defects, however, and do a recall.
Cyman,
Sounds like you have a lens connection issue and not a body issue. You should ensure that your contacts are clean and try to avoid plastic lens mounts if you have any.
I haven’t seen any new D90 owners complain of this. And no, there is no firmware update for the D90. Even if there was one, you have a connection issue, so it wouldn’t do you any good anyway.
The ERR thing happened to me tonight. 2wk old D90 I just bought from JR Photo. I tried taking the card out and putting it back in, but every time I took a picture ERR would show up on the screen and the camera would lock up. I put in a different card, took a couple of shots (but the camera was accessing the other card very slowly), then took out all the cards and took 40 shots in demo mode. After that the original card started working, but sometimes the lens wouldn’t focus. So I re-seated the flash head, and it started focusing again. I tried taking the flash on and off, and I managed to get it to say “A–” then “A90″. So I took the lens off and put it back on, and it seems good as new. I just fired off 200 test shots in different modes, with different lenses, with and without the flash. Maybe it was just a fluke…??
I have seen this issue twice now over the past two weekends of shooting soccer matches. The camera after a while will refuse to autofocuses – it would display that err message on the top display. I would turn it off for a while and turn it on and then it would focus and I could get some action shots but eventually it would stop. I would try shutting the camera off and then removing the battery and it would still do the same – work for a few moments and then stop again. This is very frustrating. I am shooting with a Sigma 50-500 Zoom. To clean the contacts – how do you do that? The camera is very new – around november 2008 timeframe. I never remove the lens I am using – I never had this issue with the two D70s I had previously – until the shutter finally failed due to shutter life (i shoot 60-100 games each year, around 500 shots per game). Any ideas would be appreciated – and hints on cleaning the contacts.
Since my first scare it’s only given me the Err message once since that, and I’ve taken hundreds of pictures with my D90 and kit lens. However, twice since then it did “forget” which lens was attached and my f/stops were all wrong (i.e. f/35 to f/99). Never had that problem on my other Nikkor lens, but I don’t use that one nearly as often. Hopefully this won’t happen when I get my 50mm prime.
Oh yes, and to fix the problem I just take the lens off and put it back on. Works for weeks after that with no problems. I did lose one shot, though, because of this issue. If I did this professionally I’d probably ditch the kit lens and get something better. Love the D90, though!
Thank you T.J. We just went on a trip to the Galapagos with the D90. We lost the chance to take a lot of fantastic photos because of this auto-focus/err message problem. Tried everything we could think of. Will try reseating the lens instead of mailing it back to Nikon.
For me, cleaning the contacts was nothing more that rubbing my finger along the thin line of contacts on both the camera and lens. Radio shack has a liquid contact cleaner that should work. I haven’t had any problems since.
But it’s odd that so many people have experienced this problem, and nothing has been heard from Nikon.
I agree with MacMaven. I’ve seen that E before on my D80 and I just twisted my lens in place a bit better and it worked fine.
Thanks for the post! Very informative. I am very thrilled by the possibility of being able to take videos with a DSLR. Obviously there are limitations (given the cost and the weight … D90 is pretty good for taking video!) so I guess people need to make the camera works for them and not against them.
I am actually looking to buy my first DSLR and have decided on D90. Now the question is what lens to use if budget is not too much of a constraint. I am actually considering prime lenses but I read that these days the zoom lenses are pretty good. I enjoy taking pictures during my holiday and hence I would suppose I need wide angle as well as portrait. And if I do visit the zoo, I may need a tele. I attend press conferences and events as a blogger and that is a tough one. Maybe 18-200mm is an OK lens to walk around with. But usually it is low light so I reckon I probably need a fast lens.
Hence the confusion … care to shine a light :)
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Hello PSTAM. Which lens do you recommend for a D90 that is wide angle and can take pictures in low light? I had a Minolta in Vietnam with 1:1.2 lens was taking great pictures in the dark. I think it will go to ebay now.
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For a wide angle in low light, your best bet will be the Tokina 11-16 2.8. The IQ is supposed to be excellent, and the 2.8 fixed aperture should help out greatly in low light. Tokina also makes a 12-24 f/4 which is supposed to be pretty good, but the 11-16 has better sharpness and is faster. These lenses are sub $600 new.
If you really want to spend some serious cash, you can look into the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 or the 12-24 f/4. You’re talking about $1K to $1500 with those.
Hey…Thanks for all of the posts. I have been debating which DSLR to purchase and this article has been by far the most helpful. (It seems as if you all have actually used the camera!)
I think you have helped me make up my mind at last…D90 here I come!!!
i’m new to all this. what filter(s) do you recommend and why? also, what do you all like for wide angle lenses?
Hey man! great page you got! I am within a week of buying the new D90 and am doing some research online about lenses for that camera, and I stumbled upon your page… I am looking to get the Nikon 18-55mm and 55-200mm combo and I am curious first what you think about that? and also does that camera take any lens made by nikon
@Chad – I think those two lenses are great alternatives to the 18-105mm that comes in the kit. It takes any Nikon lens but the newer ones are a bit more friendly with features like VR and the like. I don’t know too much about lenses so I’d recommend reading up on a site like http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikkor.htm
Very FRUSTRATED by D90! I’ve been taking pictures with SLRs and DSLRs for 15 years now, so I think I should know what I am doing here. About 2 out of 5 pictures I take with the D90 are coming out just BARELY out of focus. I have tried every different setting I could use to no avail. I am using the 18-200 VR lens that works great on my D60. I have used tripods, speedlights, inside, outside… zoomed in, and out. I have tried everything. What to do? I haven’t called Nikon yet, just wanted to see if anyone else is having this problem. I also have the problem another poster mentioned earlier. Sometimes when I hit the shutter-release button half-way nothing will happen. It refuses to focus for me. I usually have my SB-600 speedlight on it and I can see the red focus assist lights come on, but nothing will happen, no matter where I point the camera. I have to shut off the camera and turn it back on for it to work. Help!
I’d say if 2 out of 5 images are having focus problems, its not the body or the lens, but the end user. Either the body or lens is going to be defective or it isn’t in this regard. It won’t be defective 20% of time, and great 80% of the time, in terms of image sharpness.
Have you shot the same exact shot with the same exact lens and settings on your D60 and D90 on a tripod? What were the results? Can you post examples of your problems with exif data including aperture and shutter speed? Are you shooting RAW or JPEG? Are you using VR with a tripod? Is your problem occurring with daylight shooting or night or both? Have you tried post processing your pictures? What are your in-camera settings? What mode do you normally shoot?
There are so many variables here, if you want someone to accurately answer your question, you have to provide much more detail and samples/comparisons of your issue. Nikon will ask for the same if they are to look at the camera under warranty without charging you.
In regard to your second problem, try cleaning your mount and lens contacts. Normally, when you have to shut the camera on and off again to resolve a problem like that, you are not getting good information feeding from your lens to the body.
Good luck!
Ed, I’ve had the same the exact problem with the same exact lens and Sb 600. !! I have about 11,800 actuations on the shutter, had camera for about year and a half. Sent it in for service on Jan 2010 on these issues. It stills does this every now and then, very frustrating. Not sure if I should get another body, upgrade or switch to Canon :-(
Would like to hear back from you with any other info you may have or how your camera is working now.
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I’ve had this same problem. Originally purchased from BestBuy in Sep 08. After about 2 months it stopped autofocusing and the top data screen would go blank and ultimately produce an “err” in the top data screen. Only way to get rid of the problem was to open batt door to “reboot” the camera. I took it back to BB and they sent it off. It came back in 1 week and they stated that the CCD image processor was bad and was replaced. Anxious to see it work, I put my card in and turned it on, and low and behold, the original problem was still there. I showed the Geek behind the counter and he verified that the camera would not autofocus, take pictures and even verified the “err” in the data window. The store manager opted to replace the body 1 for 1. I agreed and we made the swap and out the door I went. Well, about 2 weeks later it started doing the same thing. took it back to BB today and told them the whole story and instead of swapping out the lens like I thought they would, they shipped the new body, old lens back to where ever they send these things. So, in the past 4 months I’ve been to Boston at the height of leave color changing, London and Germany, and only managed to get about 150 shots. I’m sure it’s a great camera, but I can’t prove it.
Sorry to hear about your trouble. You don’t say which ERR message you are getting specifically, as there are over 20 different ones that you can get. If you are getting the CHA error message, then you need to swap out your memory card, as some D90′s have had some compatibility issues with Sandisk Extreme cards.
On the flip side of things, you could also have a mounting issue, again, depending on your error message. Plastic mount lenses have this issue more than others, and the kit 18-105VR lens is no different. Simply clean your contacts, ensure that the lens is seated properly, power up and see if that fixes your problems.
I’m not sure who BB sent the camera off to for repair, but your issue does not sound like a CCD imager issue at all. Looks as if they would have tried a different lens and card to ensure an efficient process of elimination before sending it off to anyone. I guess that’s the problem you get when not dealing with someone who is familiar with DSLR’s like your local camera shop should be.
Good luck.
The D90 is fantastic. I bought 1 from here http://www.squidoo.com/cheap_nikon_cameras and it’s making me happier day by day lol
I just purchased the D90 – am at Disney with the family and loved it for 2 days straight. After 1 day of use I started getting an error message and would pop the battery out and put it back in and it would work again. After each day I would download all the photos (250 + movies a day), and then delete all the photos from the memory day. After the second day of doing this – the camera has officially become worthless. After taking a photo the screen says “Folder contains no images” – meaning its not being saved to the memory card (at least I think). Also when you hit the [Lv] button to shoot movies it pops up for 1 second and then goes black.
I’ve read the previous reviews and I know you’ve mentioned user errors in some, I just don’t think this is one – and if it is, I’d love to know how to fix it. Otherwise I’ll return the camera for a new one.
The memory card that was working is the Sandisk Video HD 8GB card. I tried reformatting the card and that didn’t work.
Just bought the D-90, loved it for the first 2 days here in Disney – images were great. Well, after the first day I started seeing this error message, but quickly learned that taking out and replacing the battery solved the issue temporarily. After the first 2 days I would download all the images (250 a day + a couple movies) and then delete the photos off the memory card using the camera (delete all – feature). This morning when I went to use it with a freshly charged battery and no images on the memory card – it would say on the screen “Folder contains no images”. The replacement of the battery, a couple more error message on the top of the screen, no auto focusing, and a lot of frustration later – I have no clue what is wrong with this camera. Even the [Lv] movie capturing feature does not work – it pops up for 1 second and then clicks off to a black screen. Nothing is being saved to the memory card.
The memory card is a Sandisk Video HD – 8G, worked nicely for 2 days and not has nothing on it, and I’ve tried reformatting with the camera and that didn’t solve the problem.
I’m stuck in Florida for a couple more days and if there is any advice or guidance I’d love to hear. I know you’ve mentioned the user error in most of these – but trust me, the lens on correct, the battery is charged every night, etc..
I’m stuck with poor Fuji for the rest of the trip, once I get home I am planning on exchanging this one for a new D90.
Are you seeing the ERR CHA error? As I’ve stated in previous posts, there are numerous error messages that a DSLR can display.
If I were you, due to a few complaints about Sandisk and D90 compatibilities, I’d buy another SD card. Try another manufacturer and stay small, say a 4GB card or below. Its good to carry a couple of smaller cards instead of one big anyway, just in case something happens to one or the other and its not a total loss of images.
Hope that helps
I wish I read these reviews/comments before i bought my D90. It’s locking up with “ERR” and “ERR CHA” messages. Mostly, it locks up when switching from manual to autofocus. I switched from Canyon hoping Nikon would be better. That’s not the case.
sounds like a connection issue between the lens and the body. take it to a Wolf camera or something and see what they say.
Hi Paul,
I too had an initial love for the D90 back in November 08 when I first purchased it from B&H. However, when I was at Disney and about to capture a shot of my young boys with Pluto and the D90 froze up and flashed the ERR CHA message, I quickly became disenchanted. Trust me that I explored every avenue to fix the problem. I purchased and tried different brand cards (SanDisk, Lexar Pro, etc.). I troubleshooted with Nikon Customer Support. Finally, I did an even body exchange with B&H and tried a second D90. Again, it allowed me to shoot several hundred shots and then again the ERR CHA message started appearing again. That was two new D90′s with the same error message. The sad part is that Nikon will not admit there is a problem despite dozens of complaints. I returned the camera again. Any suggestions on a good replacement for the D90? Would love your input! Thanks so much.
Of the following cameras which you guys think is ahead and which is 2nd and third taking into account all the factors including cost.
Nikon D90, Nikon D700 and Canon 50DI know the D90 with lens 18 to 105 is equivalent to 27.5 in film camera.
It really depends on what you intend to do with the camera. If you never plan to shoot in low light situations or sporting events, then the D700 would be a waste on you no matter what kind of bargain you could find.
Figure out what you want to do with your camera, and what is important to you, then start weighing out price versus feature set.
Great Review. I am currently using Canon EOS 400D , I bought it for about, 900$ with standard 18-55 leans, but when I red that you bought Nikon D90 it for 1300$ and you had a 18-105 leans , I was shocked – really cheap, so now I am thinking on going to Nikon.
Thank’s for review.
I do not know enough about cameras. I want to take ultra wide to telephoto with one lens. I do not want to keep changing lenses.
First the body Nikon D90 versus Canon 50D. Nikon lense 18-105 I hear the wide part of the lense is not very sharp. In 50D the lens start from 24. I had Nikon D90 and at times it would not click. I had to shut off the camera and then turn on again. Was I doing something wrong or the camera was mulfunctioning. Canon 50D I never tried it. some of you have tried both. You must have a better knowledge.
What’s the verdict guys?
Thank You
I’m not sure where you heard that the 18-105VR is not sharp at 18mm. It’s actually very sharp throughout the entire range. As with any telephoto lens, you may have some distortion, but that is to be expected and can be corrected during post processing.
Both the Canon and Nikon are very good bodies. You need to decide what you are going to be doing with each. The Nikon is $300 cheaper. So if there is any feature on the Canon that is worth the extra $300 to you, then you have your answer. If you have no idea, then the Nikon will be plenty of camera for you. Besides, the D90 has a superior AF system to the Canon, superior flash system, and weighs a bit less which is important when traveling. There are a few advantages to the Canon system as well.
Again, it depends on what is important to you.
For the D90, remove the lens and inspect, and then clean the contacts. That solved my problem.
How do you clean the contacts?
I think I will buy buy Nikon D90.
Canon has some pluses but cost $350 to $400 more.
Paul,
I am interested in buying a Nikon D90 and see a broad range of cost on the net from mid $300s to the normal $999. Are the low price cameras Nikons or look a likes or what. I would like to save but not dive into a shallow pool.
Do not buy from non-reputable dealers. Take a look at reselleratings.com, and you can research each online retailer. The best I’ve dealt with that have the best prices are Buydig.com, Beachcamera.com, Abesofmaine.com, or tristate (but only on ebay).
Purchased the Nikron D-90 lense then a week ago and the plastic lens is already broken. Why plastic? Not happy with this at all!
You broke the plastic lens mount? Granted, its not metal like the higher end lenses, but its still very hard plastic. Normally it can’t be broken unless the lens is dropped, abused, or used very heavily for a long period of time. Even at that, its rare to hear of one breaking off.
Most of your ‘higher end’ lenses have metal mounts, but that doesn’t mean that they can’t be damaged with abuse or dropping as well. Plastic is obviously used as a cost cutter, but every lens manufacturer uses it. Want a better mount? You’ll have to pay more money. But again, very rare that these things break.
Something weird is happening with my D90. After I take the pics I want, when I download them to my hard drive, I notice there are duplicates of each. But the file name extension would be like “DSC_1488″ and be 6.0 MB in size and then other would be “DSC_1488_2″and be 6.1MB. What gives?
This effectively doubles the size of the data being put on my hard drive.
Check your ‘Quality’ settings. You must have set it to store both RAW + JPEG at Medium quality = 6.9 MP
PLEASE HELP!!!
My parents were recently in Hong Kong, (we live in South-Africa) and they bought me a D90. it worked fine for a day or two and then it started giving them the little “err” sign on the top screen. It works fine indoors and at a low f-stop but as soon as you take it over f3.5 in light it give you the “err” and all the photos come out very dark!!!
I really dont know what to do!
The same thing happened to me in Venice! The first day I had no camera, as they were all coming out dark, and I had the dreaded “err” signal. Luckily, a camera repairman saved the day, removing the lens and cleaning the connections between the lens and body. After that, it worked great, though at times I got a different error message…this time it was the battery that was loose. I believe the compartment wasn’t holding the battery tightly enough, and I had to open the door and push on the battery many times per day. I have since had a technician look at it, and so far so good. Hope this helps.
Hi everyone,
I just got Nikon D90 last Friday (6/12/09) and I had SLR camera since early ’70. It has come a long way since then. The main reason I got this one was the fast action picture that I wanted. It is doing a great job of that plus it also takes great clean pictures with 18-105mm lens. There is only one problem that I noticed, the release button would freezes and would not take any pictures. Also there was a blinking red box on the screen when I press the release button. I tried everything to get it back to working order. Went thru the manual and found nothing there. So I did a reset for all settings and that did the trick. Then it happened again but the reset did not work. So I turned it off and on. That works. I went back to Best Buy where I got it. They said they need to see it and would exchange it if there a problem. So I am keeping an eye on it now. I hope for a resolution for it. Thanks, Stevo
After reaching limits on my digital point&shoot, I purchased the D90 with 18-105 VR and 70-300 VR lenses. Absolutely incredible results. I can do things in difficult lighting situations that were impossible before the D90 or even with my film SLR. This tool is so much fun to use that I am always looking for photo opps. My interest in photography has been renewed. Editing Raw files with capture NX2 is a learning experience to get results that were easy with Picasa on jpegs. Enjoy your D90′s!
I bought the D90 a month ago after selling of my beloved D40. I use my 10-200 VR most of the time – and is very happy with the improved image quality (over D40, which was good) . Now I added the new 35 mm f/1.8 DX lens. For portraits and low light it is absolutely stunning. I adds a whole new level to my photography. Portraits are razor sharp – an low light performance on the D90 very impressive. Great indoor pictureas at almost no light. I use the flach much less after I added the 35 mm.
My D90 worked like a dream until the 3rd occasion when it showed errormessage and wouod not shoot. But when I reinserted battery it worked. But yesterday I was frustrated as the camera gave up on me just as when my daughter was getting the degree Cert! I am desparate as i was looking forward ot takin git to Orlando on my first hol since buying th eCamera. Any ideas?! First of the 5 Nikons that has given pronlem.
Sam
I am pretty much convinced the problem I am having with my D90 is heat related. I shoot my son’s soccer games and on hot days – hotter than say 90 degrees f, the camera won’t focus and so it won’t shoot. It is very frustrating because they do play on hot days. I am not sure what to do. I think my camera is beyond the warranty and I don’t want to send it off for repair unless I know for certain that it can in fact be repaired. So my question is – does anyone know for a fact if the D90 has an issue with operating on hot days and if so, have they had it repaired? I don’t recall having his issue with my D70.
I have had D90 for about a month and NOW realized the problem is related to the lens. When the camera stop doing anything and I see ‘F–’ on the upper right screen blinking. Just take the lens off and on. That does the trick! Looking at the manual says “No lens attached”. Sounds like a glich with the computer chip. Hope Nikon come up with a fix.
Now I have had D90 over a month now. Still learning new things on it.
After returning from vacation I found that some of the photos are not being transfer to my PC. I have the total 1,255 on the card. After connecting the USB from camera to PC it only picked up 1,042. 231 photos are not picked up. I checked it is still on the camera. I have looked in the manual and I dont see why and what is the problem. Has anyone experienced this?
Stevo
Problem identified !!! I bought another SDHC card to test the camera and Adobe photoshop tool. Now it works fine with the new SDHC. So this means the other SDHC is corrupted however still takes good pictures BUT not able to transfer to the PC. Next step – re-format the first SDHC card should be able clear up the problem.
I want to add myself to the list of folks getting the err message. Never had a problem with years of use with my D50. After reading the internet, I am convinced Nikon has a real problem with the D90. Lot of people having the exact same problem.
I don’t have dirty lenses, have never dropped it. It just quits while shooting, displays a “err” in the window. Pulling the battery is the only thing that makes it work, very briefly I might add, again.
I have the 18-105mm lens and does a great job!!! However I sometimes want to do a real close up picture. Even setting the mode to ‘flower’ does not help. I am assuming that I would have to get a wide angle lens like 14mm? Please advise. Thanks, Stevo
Steve, I’d check out the 50mm Nikon fixed lens. I got mine for under $100 several years ago. I have the f/1.8 version but I believe an f/1.4 and f/1.2 have since been made.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/5018af.htm
I’m also getting the D90 Err message and lock up. I bought my D90 about two months ago and the problem started happening about three weeks ago. Up until then everything worked great. I use the Nikon 18-200 VR and it never leaves the camera and I have never dropped or otherwise abused it. The only thing that corrects it is if I remove and reinsert the battery, sometimes it take multiple times. I can get a couple of hundred shots before it happens again. Looks like my D90 will be taking a trip to Nikon service.
Dohale – I think it is more of the lens issue. I get the same thing and I just take the lens off and on. And I do it periodically so I wont get stuck in the middle of taking pictures. Otherwise everything is great… Stevo
I bought my d90 2 months ago from Asia and it has had no error messages… using 18-200 nikkor and 4gb Kingston sd. Maybe the problem for you guys is because of the nikon usa manufacturer..
Had my D90 for seven days and it’s been great. Unfortunately on the eve of day seven it’s acting up. Err message, won’t autofocus, and thinks that it’s at f/99 on a lens that only goes to f/22. Did I mention the store has a seven day return policy and now I’m stuck with it. It’ under warranty but now I wish I bought a Canon. I expect a little more for $1500.
I just wanted to leave a positive review, as comments often attract a disproportionate amount of negative input.
I’ve had my D90 for almost 11 months now.. No problems so far.. Have taken about 20k photos. Beautiful image quality, great battery life, nice weight and feel, intuitive design.. I’m still discovering all the useful little bits and pieces built into this machine.
Photos actually look better than those from my friend’s D300, so in my opinion, the D90 is a steal.
Still using the 18-105mm kit lens, and have also invested in a Nikon 50mm f/1.4.
What can I say.. I love it to bits! :)
Chris – try removing and inserting the lens. This works for me. Now seems to be working fine. Stevo
I’ve had mine for almost a year myself. Over 5K clicks and no issues what so ever. Exactly what I expected for my $1300!
when shooting on the street with my D90 passersby ask me what i know about the message that causes so many of us loss (not to mention fear of using this camera on assignment): err. it’s inexcusable for nikon to just ignore an obvious glitch.
when it happens again, i’ll check the lens and battery solutions suggested.
any opinions on the 16-85mm lens?
thank you for a very helpful site.
Wow. The guy must have had a set of eagle eyes to be a passerby and be able identify a D90 badge on the camera? I can barely see it when looking at my own camera.
I’ve got over 7K clicks on my D90. Nothing but flawless execution from the camera. Haven’t seen any issues of this in the dpreview or Nikonians forums for quite some time either. Sounds like there may have been an issue with a select few cameras, but overall, doesn’t seem to be an issue any longer.
I have the 16-85VR lens. It’s fantastic. Great optics, build, and holds its resale. Probably the best ‘consumer’ grade lens out there. The VR works wonders as well. Couples great with the 70-300VR.
to macmaven
many passersby easily recognize my nikon d90 because they have the same camera.
if you read the posts on this forum you will find a number of people with the same d90 issues.
thanks for feedback on the lens.
to ee
Even if you have the same camera, to determine by mere sight what it is, D70, D50, D80, D90, D300, or even the D40, you really have to look in order to make out which configuration it is. Don’t really buy that you’ve had several just walk by and ask you about the problems with the camera around your neck. Very strange indeed.
The people on this forum are an extremely small percentage of all of the D90′s sold. Extremely small…a fraction of a fraction. And that is aside from the fact that typically, the only thing you read about in forums are the problematic issues. Go over to avsforum.com and read about LCD televisions. You’d think that every manufacturer has out for the consumer, and based on the feedback, you’d never buy an LCD again. But again, those complaints are fractions of a percent of total purchasers.
Go over to dpreview, and monitor the D90 forum for a week. You’ll see very few of your complaint. Not saying that your complaint or issue is not legitimate, and I hope that Nikon resolves it for you. But its not a mass exodus of issues that you are making it out to be. You are in the minority.
I have a problem with my D90. The camera flash is always on the open position, whether the camera is on or off. I cannot get it to lock when I push it down. Help, anybody?
Hrm – it sounds like the little latch is broken. Can you see it inside there? It’s a tiny piece of plastic that looks like a hook, on the left side of the flash, a bit in front of the dial.
I have a D90, purchased in February ’09 from BH photo. I get the dreaded ERR message frequently. The problem does not go away when I remove and replace the lens (16-85, and not a plastic mount) but it does appear to go away every time I remove and replace the battery. Very annoying though. Does anybody know what the standard warranty on this camera is — I did not purchase an extended warranty. Thanks.
Standard warranty for a body is 1 year. So you should be able to send in for service.
Good review. I’m not a professional and just recently migrated from a D40 to a D90; its love at first click. I think the video recording is meant for such things as your baby’s first step and the like, not for serious videography. I added a Tamron 18-270 VC (Tamron’s equivalent of vibration reduction) and I can’t stop falling in love with my shots. Only snag till date… would have loved a lens with a higher aperture range, say 2.8. I’m still saving….
I bought the D-90 last January and I bet I havent taken 300 photos with it. I can’t tell you how many err messages I get on the top screen.Popping the battery out is the only fix. The camera takes fantastic pictures when it does work. Am I correct to assume that the lens seems to be the problem?
The store I bought it from gave me a complete new D-90 last July before I went on vacation.
This past weekend went to 2 Christmas parties and I bet I must have had to take the battery out 15 times.
TWO D-90′s with the exact same problem.
Not a happy camper for the money that was spent.
I am going back to the dealer tonight to see if we can come up with a fix.
I have the same problem.. Never had it with my D50
I have had less problems than when I first got it. Now works 99 % of the time. Otherwise I just take off and on the lens.
Still happy with it… great pixs and fast action.
Stevo
Just got back from the camera dealer and seems most everyone hit the nail on the head with the suggestions to remove the lens. The Nikon rep told the camera dealer to “remove the lens 10 times” to fix the problem. Seems there is a coating on the electrical contacts on the lens and it is a simple problem to fix. Had a couple of ppl tell me today to use an eraser on the lens contacts.
Hopes this helps others who have had this problem.
LOVE the camera and the pictures are fantastic.. :)
So glad I am not the only one with these problems. I was beginning to think I was going blind. Everything looks like it is focused and then when I load my images they are blurry. I have a D50 and two other Nikons that have never done this. I am so frustrated. I received the same err message others are talking about today for the first time. (I have never received an err message on my three other Nikons.) Lost 150 pictures. Looks like the D90 has some serious issues. Wish I would have read this review before I got mine in October. Hopefully BH will help me.
Quantifying your statement, YOUR D90 has some serious issues. Mine has been fantastic for over 5K clicks and one year of service. However, with respect to your issues, they aren’t related.
I’m not sure what is going on with your AF, but you do have a very high rez LCD that will easily show OOF shots if you were looking for it. I chimp quite frequently so I don’t have any surprises, and that LCD is amazingly detailed and will show when a shot is not in focus. Are you setting the focus points correctly? Are you shooting moving or still images? Have you taken a focus card (easily downloaded on the net for free), set your D90 up on a tripod, and taken a few test shots with various lenses to define the problem? If not, I’d suggest doing it so that you can define the problem, if there is one, from the body or the lens. They are two different things and can cause the problems that you are talking about.
The D90 is a complex camera to use if you haven’t mastered the controls. Its no way close to D40 in ease of use, it is therefore possible to mistaken control and configuration issues for technical issues. I had the same issues during the first few days of use and the solution is to get a very good “how to” books. I bought magic lantern and my problems became solved. Again, D90 is a fantastic machine if you receive error messages, do an online search using the error code and you’ll see what you are not getting right. Cheers.
Just got my D90 as a Christmas gift and was enjoying it tremendously…then I got the f—- message… okay I could deal with that from reading the posts, but now it won’t turn off. It still takes pictures even when it is turned off. I have reset and have taken the battery our and replaced it, however it is still on when off! Any ideas?
I was hoping for a quick & easy answer but from the problems I’ve just read about above, that seems unlikely.
My Husband bought me my 1st DSLR camera, the Nikon D90 with a Sigma DC 18-200 from the Hong Kong airport (we live in Australia). On day 1 I read through part of the manal & experimented with some of the functions & everything seemed fine, although after 3 hours & maybe 50 images the battery sign flashed. On day 2, after charging the battery over night the LCD displayed the battery as very low when I turned the camera on….on inspection the camera seems to function ok when the lens is switched to manual, with all of the functions working. But when I switch to AF on the lens & turn the camera on the low battery sign flashes & the camera doesn’t work. Any advice for me??? The battery is a EN-EL3e & bought from the same supplier as the camer & lens. I’ve tried turning the camera on/off, removing the battery & lens but the same problem is occurring. Hope you have an simple explanation. Thanks
does macmaven work for nikon- in any capacity?
Nope…just trying to help troubleshoot, that’s all.
I also had the same error message on my D90 in December 2009. It looks like they are still selling defective equipment!!!!!!!!!!! Mine is supposed to arrive back tomorrow from the Nikon shop.
I have had my D90 since June 09 and, as a photography student, have taken thousands of pictures with no problems. This is a great camera for it’s versatility and small enough to travel with.
I would recommend, if you are considering this camera, that you go to your local camera retailer (specialist), not BB or the like. You may pay a few dollars more, but the help you can get at the store whenever you have a problem is invaluable. I can go to the store where I bought mine anytime, and they will show me how to do something if I can’t figure it out myself from reading the manual.
Love this camera.
I agree wholeheartedly. :)
I recently purchased the D90 as a backup….a thousand pictures so far, narry a problem…I will say this camera is capable of capturing excellent images! Video (who cares) ?
The user interface is pro-like and the camera handles better than the D300 IMO. Size and form is excellent…18-105 VR is a great walk around lens…but the 35/1.8 is even sweeter.
I tried the D90. After awhile it would not click sometimes.
I did not like the Movie part of it. No stabilization.
I ot rid of it.
I had years ago a 1.2 lens. I could take pictures in limited light.
I never tried the D700. It is too expensive for my blood…though I am curious on how it works.
I think the D90 issues may be related to humidity levels. I had intermittent trouble with mine. Eventually got it replaced by Nikon, no issues with the new one yet. Knock on wood…
Doubt it’s related to humidity. I live in South Florida. You don’t get much more humid than that. Camera works great!
I live in Lagos, Nigeria, Africa (hot humid tropics). You can hardly get more moisture in the air than here in Africa, yet my D90 works wonders. I guess the ones with issues have factory defects.
This is kind of a weird problem…I first discovered it when the sights went dark. Then I tried to remove the lens and it wouldn’t come off. I took it back to the camera store where I bought it and the guy there took the camera and twisted harder and it came off. Apparently it was caught on a little tab inside the front where the lens attaches. Well the problem wasn’t really fixed because the sights still go dark and I have to remove the lens and put it back on to make it work again. I can see wear marks on the little tab from doing this over and over again. Has anyone else ever had this problem?
I am so confused regarding what would be the best investment for an all around(but artsy)lens to buy for my nikon d90 I have a few lenses which I will list but will someone please direct me as to what lens I could add that is not as bulky as the 18-200 but will serve me walking around taking urban pics(people,still life’s,coffee house pics/restaurant type pics of people) I am thinking of selling the 18-105 and replacing it with something else-just don’t know what/
I have read so many reviews my head is spinning-just need to know-do I buy 16-85/18-55/17-55/50mm/24-70/ which would be the best weekend walk around lens-I rarely shoot landscapes and like more in your face/wide angle pics-maybe I already have it in my arsenal of lenses and just don’t know it-any help is appreciated. TIA!
HEre is what I own:
12-24
35
60 macro
85
18-105
18-200
to rocky,
there are quite a few posts here, including mine, that describe the same problem with the D90. in the archives here you’ll find the reports of other people. (i’m suspicious of macmaven as his posts are defensive.) however, nikon pretends to not know about it.
Suspicious about my posts? lol…I’ve been a long time Nikon owner…D70, D50, D80, and now the D90. I’ve also been an active member in some of the major photo forums for quite some time as well. They are very useful for new ideas in technique and subject matter. As in electronic forum, people are going to have some issues from time to time. It’s a piece of machinery after all.
What I have said is that I haven’t seen that issue crop up too much in these forums since the release of the D90. Note that I didn’t say never, as there clearly is an issue ‘somewhere’ in D90 land, but it certainly is not a dominating one, and one that some on here would like to attach a conspiracy theory too. I bought my D90 on the first or second week of release at Best Buy. Haven’t had an issue since, and I’ve done quite a bit with it.
Now, if you speak about my Apple 27″ imac…..then Houston, we have a problem….;)
Thanks for the review first of all – I just moved from Atlanta to Phoenix so the pics of Piedmont Park were reminiscent. I bought the D90 back in early 2008 with the 18-105 lens. I’ve had the lock up issues, err issues, sporadically ever since day one. However it does seem to be less frequent than originally. I just can’t seem to find the sweet spot with the 18-105 kit lens – the images are just not sharp. Testing it earlier this afternoon in Aperture priority – I shot the same subject at the same distance on each aperture – I was told you’d find a sweet spot where your lens worked the best for focus, contrast, and such but none of them are sharp. Anyone else know of a simple remedy or should I just look for other lenses to purchase and replace the 18-105?
is Tamron 70-300 compatible with D90?
yes Mira, i have a Tamron 70-300mm telemacro. workx fine!!
Nikon’s response to the D90 “CHA” error .
Hello Lou,
Thank you for submitting your question and I’m sorry to hear you are having problems with your Nikon camera.
When a CF card is inserted into a Nikon Digital Camera the camera checks the card for compatibility and usability. There are three possible results of the test:
1) Camera detects valid card, displays number of remaining images in top LCD
2) Camera displays “FOR” in top LCD. The camera has detected a valid disk partition map, but was unable to read the first sector of the drive. Formatting the drive in the camera should resolve this condition and allow the card to be used.
3) Camera displays “CHA” in top LCD. The camera has detected an invalid partition type or is not working properly. Reformatting the card may allow it to be used. If an approved card gives the “CHA” indicator contact the cards manufacturer for assistance.
Please note that the default disk format used in Windows XP is FAT32 and if a card is formatted with this setting on an XP system the D1 will report CHA. Reformat the card as “FAT” to use in the D1 series camera.
You can find this information at: Answer Title: What are CHA and FOR codes?
Answer Link: http://support.nikontech.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25
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he D90 “CHA” error message:
Just got my (2/2009) D90 (Nikkor 18-200mm) back from Nikon service (had extended plan), to address the “CHA” error message. I don’t know what they did as it is all in “Nikon Code” on the repair order. After 300 pictures, so far so good. Can send the repair order upon request. Prayers do work. Lou
Moved up from a D50 to a D90 and have been having the same err message. It is very frustrating to have to remove the battery to try a quick fix. I have read several of the posts and this issue has been happening for a long time now, and it appears that Nikon is not taking the steps to fix it.
Nikon is the TOYOTA of cameras?
One of the errors I get along with the CHA error is because there is play on the mount. Wolf camera told me to just twist it a little to make it work. There should not be any play between the body and the lens. I have had my camera for 6 months shot 20+ thousands photos and the issue is only a few days old. I need a REAL Fix, suggestions welcome.
Nikon D90 has deleted over 500 pictures after HAVING to remove the battery to reset the damn thing. ERR messages under just about every lighting condition, F– for some damn reason. Then, I take the thing back to my camera store and Nikon wants to replace my camera body but not the LENSE COUPLER that is responsible for these errors? They in fact want to charge me 95 dollars to replace the lens… they know a problem exists so they just wait for people to turn the thing in for repairs and wait for a sucker to pay 95 more dollars for an already junky camera? That is my view on the thing at this point, I could be wrong. We will see if much has changed when I get the camera body back without what seems to be a scam of a lens repair.
What lens are you talking about? Is it the 18-105VR? Seems like that’s the culprit on most of these complaints that I’ve read. Not sure how the D90 would have actually deleted pictures, unless you formatted the card after you reset the camera by taking the battery out. If you still have the SD card and haven’t formatted it, there is free software out there that will enable you to get your images off the card.
As posted be me last December…..
“Just got back from the camera dealer and seems most everyone hit the nail on the head with the suggestions to remove the lens. The Nikon rep told the camera dealer to “remove the lens 10 times” to fix the problem. Seems there is a coating on the electrical contacts on the lens and it is a simple problem to fix. Had a couple of people tell me today to use an eraser on the lens contacts.
Hopes this helps others who have had this problem.”
As a side note..
I have taken a couple of thousand photos since I last posted this.. and not one time have I gotten ANY error messages.
Chuck,
Did you “remove the lens 10 times” or use the eraser method? Just got a D90 Friday and by Monday I was getting the err message…
Thanks.
I removed the lens…
I dont think 10 times matters, it’s just the fact that you get whatever coating is on the contacts off of them.
Let us know how you make out.
Chuck
Removed the lens and then replaced lens – still had “err.” Did hard reset – still had “err” . Removed lens and cleaned contacts – still had “err” but camera worked. Tried a shot or two and “err” went away. Shot some more test shots – no more “err.” Will keep you posted if status changes…
Just an update. It’s been two weeks since I’ve cleaned the contacts on my 18-105 lens, and I’ve not had a “err” message since. Camera performing well and taking great shots. Also, replaced the Minolta T-mount on an old Vivitar 75-260 zoom (circa mid-70′s) with a Nikon T mount and used the lens (and D90 body) manually. It’s essentially a 113-390 equivalent zoom lens length using the 1.5 multiplication factor. Works great, and uses the same filter size as the Nikon 18-105.
I have a different focus issue with my D90 than I am seeing in these posts. My D90 was perfect for the first few months, but then began having focus problems. Sometimes it goes completely out of focus, apparently trying to focus as close as possible to the lens. It is most annoying when shooting multiple shots of a subject and suddenly the focus motor runs all the way to the stop. A big blur. This happens in a variety of conditions when there is a clear target to focus on. Sometimes it will refocus on the subject if I release and depress the shutter release button a few times. Other times I have to turn it off and on. I miss a lot of shots this way. I have two lenses, the 18-55 and the 55-200. Operation is the same with both.
Hi -
I’ve been trying to decide between the D90 and D5000. I have a D70 now and it’s too heavy to lug around – that’s the primary reason I am moving up. I’ve checked out the D5000 and was ready to buy it until I noticed that it did not have a that “screen” on the top of the camera that I rely on so much. I then started checking out the D90 but, after reading many of the comments here, I’d think I’d be wary of the D90 – should I be?
At any rate, now I’m at a loss to know which one to buy. I’ve been a Nikon owner and “amateur” photographer for over 35 years and use my camera for mostly nature, vacations, and portraits. Any advice or help you could give me would be sincerely appreciated.
Thanks!
Richard
The D90 has the true pentaprism, not just a pentamirror. It is brighter and easier to use for focussing than the D5000. The D90 is more weatherproof, has a greater range of customizations available…and it uses more of the existing Nikon lenses. The basic sensor and software are the same on the two systems. My criteria for the purchase was glass, sensor and interface. The D90 won out on the interface, which includes viewfinder and live view…but it cost about $300 more. You have to weigh quite a few things to be happy with your decision.
If you are heavily invested in existing Nikon equipment research the lens compatibility issue carefully. Shop around before purchasing a D90. I got one for about $1000 on Amazon. I had to return the first one they shipped and it was really hassle free.
Thank you for your reply. Would someone address the concerns I have about the problems of the D90 ? Thank you.
With anything on the web, you really need to take the issues that you read about with a grain of salt. I’ve had my D90 since it was released, and have had no problems. Its really been a great piece of gear, and I’ve used it quite extensively in a variety of environments. If I had to guess, the 18-105 lens may have some kind of contact issue from what I’ve read, but I’ve also had that lens as well, and again, nothing but great shots. You’ll find online complaints about any product you choose to buy, take your pick. It is an electronic device after all.
I have a D40 and D90. For years now (and very seldom at that), the D40 only displays the ERR message when the factory kit lens (18-105) is attached. Re-seating the lens has always “fixed it” so to speak.
With the D90, the same 18-105 lens (brand new) I still get the odd ERR message and again, a re-seat of the lens “fixes it”.
On the other-hand have yet see an ERR message with the 18-200 mm lens on the D90.
This leads me to believe the issue is with the 18-105 lenses that Nikon ships as the kit lens on their cameras.
richard,
> i would not buy the nikon d90 if i were you. i’m sorry i bought mine when i did. nikon has been notified about problems with this camera and have not responded with notes to their customers, let alone with fixes.
i’ve had problems with my nikon d90, other people have told me about their
problems with that camera plus there are the people who posted here. i bought the camera when it came out with video but now there are other
still/video cameras available, and i would research the others.
elaine
Elaine -
Thanks for you reply. I wish you were more specific about your D90 problems. I’ve investigated buyers’ comments for several weeks now and, taken collectively, they seem to be related to specific Nikon lens used.
Another issue: When the lenses they offer (i.e., zoom) have medium range f-stops (i.e., begin at f3.5), there will also be some issue with focus (what some people perceive as motor issues) may be related to the amount of light in a situation.
Richard
My D90 problem is similar to those here. With my D90 the “err” issue and/or inability to focus issue occurs on hot days – temperatures over 85 F. I have taken thousands of sports shots – soccer pix. BUT on hot days, the camera becomes basically useless. I use a Sigma 50-500 zoom. I have tried all the tricks here – unseta/reseat the lens, temporarily remove the battery etc. I have tried cleaning the contacts on the camera body and the lens itself. Regardless – the problem invariably occurs on hot days. Its is VERY frustrating. My D70 and D70s were flawless. I had hoped that Nikon would come up with a solution. For now I am saving my money buy another DSLR – probably another Nikon (300s ?). I too would stay away from the D90, unless Nikon comes up with a fix – hell just acknowledge that there is an issue would be great.
Have you considered having your Sigma lens “re-chipped”? Common issue with Sigma lenses and new bodies. Many times you have to send the lens in in order to get it to communicate correctly.
Seems as if any issue that people have, they direct it at the camera body. With a variety of third party lenses out there, its a common issue to have a lens that isn’t doing its job.
John, I’ve had the same the exact problem with my D90, and I agree I think it’s a heat issue. I have about 11,800 actuations on the shutter, had camera for about year and a half. Sent it in for service on Jan 2010 on these issues. It stills does this every now and then, very frustrating. Not sure if I should get another body, upgrade or switch to Canon :-(
Would like to hear back from you with any other info you may have or how your camera is working now.
What is “rechipped”? Never heard of that. Who can I talk to about having that done?
You’d have to contact Sigma directly and see if the process is necessary with that camera body. I believe that Sigma does it for free, but you’d have to send your lens away for a couple of weeks.
richard,
my problems with the d90 are the err message and erratic focus.
yesterday at the new york photo festival i borrowed the new fabulous, leica ($7,000) for a few hours – no unnecessary bells/whistles just wonderful shooting.
it made me resent all the more my heavy d90 with it’s problems, especially since nikon will not even acknowledge them.
it will take years, but i’ll start saving for the leica now. in the meantime, i’ll investigate other less expensive cameras.
best elaine
If you are talking about the M9, yes, its very nice. But if you think that your investment stops at $7K, that’s dreaming, as the Leica 50mm alone costs roughly $1200. However, according to all reviews, its a very nice cam if you have the cash outlay! However, don’t really think that you can compare a $7K Leica to a $900 Nikon. That comparison is flawed on multiple levels.
You seem to have the most issue with the D90 on this forum, or at least you have the majority of the posts complaining about the ‘variety’ of issues, yet you really don’t spell them out except for the ‘err’ message and some kind of focusing issue. Have you actually spent the time to find out which ‘err’ message that you have? There are quite a few possible when a camera reports back a problem. That’s simply the general report out error. I don’t even think that you’ve stated what lens you are using, or considered that as an option for the issue? But, being someone that is willing to spend the sum of a small automobile on a camera, you probably already knew that. Maybe I missed it.
Either way, if anyone wants to see a much larger representation of D90 owners, check out dpreview.com. You’ll find some complaints, as with any electronic device, but the majority of posts are of the positive variety. And yes, there’s even a Leica forum..;)
macmaven,
i don’t understand why, instead of simply responding to problems people report with the d90, you attack. of course i’m not comparing the leica with the d90, just reporting on the experience. and i was responding to richard who wanted help with his decision. the lens issue and it’s removal/replace solution has been reported on many times by others.
your remarks about the lens i’m using and what i can afford are insulting.
i thought the purpose here was to post problems, exchange experiences and help each other. when i stated in a previous post that when people on the street saw me shooting with the d90, they told me they had the same problems i had, you wrote, in effect, that you didn’t believe that people on the street would notice the d90 and talk to me about it. why not just address the camera problems and the fact that nikon has been no help?
btw, people in new york city do talk to each other on the street and like to chat about cameras.
elaine
Not attacking at all, merely responding to your repeated blanket comments that there is something ‘wrong’ with your camera body, without performing the due diligence behind your commentary. That’s a bit irresponsible in my book.
In terms of what lens you are using, that is absolutely a key ingredient when attempting to solve a problem. Yet you never mention it once, and keep repeating that the D90 has ‘problems’ to people who are looking to make a purchase. Again, irresponsible commentary. I tried to point out to a few users what it could possibly be, including a lens/contact issue with the 18-105VR, and cited some of my personal experiences. You take that and begin your own personal branding, by asking repeatedly if I’m a Nikon employee or something. How is that constructive?
I’ve traveled quite a few places domestically, including New York, as I lived in the area for a short time, and never had anyone come up and comment on the problems that may or may not be associated with the gear I’m using at the time. You’d have to have 20/10 vision just to see the Nikon model number from 10 paces. Possible sure, but not probable.
I really could care less how much or how little you can afford, that’s not my business, but you do follow up the comment again with “it made me resent all the more my heavy D90 with it’s problems”. Again, you don’t really offer more than this comment over and over again, but you don’t provide anything more to a prospective buyer looking for advice.
If a light switch fails to turn on the light in your house, do you investigate the possible causes of a faulty wall switch, blown light bulb, bad fuse, or do you immediately call the power company demanding an explanation of their poor service and follow up on their web forum complaining about it? Hopefully, that illustrates my point.
Wanted to respond to everyone who has mentioned getting the “E” error message. I too had this problem when I first bought my D90 from BB (with the kit lense). After sending it in to be fixed, the message would still pop up. After shooting with it for awhile, and missing a few great opportunities because of this problem, I realized it mostly happened when I was manually focusing (ie. handling the lense). I then noticed the lense felt slightly loose and if I twisted it a bit, the message would go away. I was able to get BB to replace the lense mount and I have never had this problem since. Shoots great! Hope that helps.
RE: D90 “CHA” Error message. After following Nikon’s suggestion “this is a card reader issue” from last April, I purchased a new card. Within 300 pictures, the “CHA” error returns! I adjusted/removed/reinstalled the 18-200 Nikon lens only to have to remove the battery anyway to reboot. I dropped of my camera at the Nikon Repair Center here in NY. I have the Nikon 2 year warranty, purchased it in 2/2009. No problems until 1/2010.
Will keep you posted on the outcome.
LuckyLou
I have had my D90 for a year and a half now. Got the dreaded E message dozens of times in the first six months, and then it mysteriously went away. I was able to work around it 98% of the time by removing and reinserting the battery, but I have to say there were a few times when this did not work. It might interest some people in this blog to know that I did not buy the kit lens — bought the 16-85 zoom instead, which does not have a plastic mount. So I am not in the camp that believes this is related to a coating that needs to be worn away on the lens mount. I don’t know why but I have not gotten the E message for about a year now. I love the camera and the lens is terrific though, as some predicted, a bit heavier than the kit lens. This has not been a problem for me. I considered getting a couple of lenses instead of the zoom, but I know myself well — much too lazy to carry a lens bag and change lenses once I am out and about. I recommend this combination.
I bought my D-90 in Dec. 2008, and until this weekend, have been able to clear the ERR message by cleaning the lens contacts. A few days ago, while vacationing on the Maine coast, the camera locked up completely. I tried everything–changing the lens, card, battery, cleaning all contact points, changing to full manual control, and nothing has worked. Finding this website is almost a relief–I know I’m not alone with the problems. Before the camera totally locked up, I did have trouble with the autofocus, and was unable to open the flash. Now, I can not do anything on the body of the camera, such as change the metering pattern, but I can go through the menu and change settings. This is, of course, useless, because I can not take a photo! Otherwise, I have been extremely pleased with this camera, and once I get it fixed or replaced, will take my old D70 to South Africa in September. Suppose the D-90 croaks when I’m 10,000 miles from home?
Update! B&H told me to contact Nikon, which I did, about the problem described above. The tech support person was of no help whatsoever, and suggested that I contact the insurance company whose policy I bought with the camera and lens. Instead, I made a rather long trip to the nearest camera store (a branch of Ritz) where the store manager fixed it. The problem to me was vaguely reminiscent of a mirror lock up problem that I experienced years ago with a film camera. I mentioned that, and he removed the lenses , gently prodded the mirror and shutter (?). He then put it on a 30 second exposure in full manual mode, and this fixed the camera. He surmised that the problem may have been a small amount of moisture, which makes sense as I did change lenses on a foggy day. I hope that this helps some of you out there struggling with your D-90 beast! At least I’ve learned a new trick before going off to South Africa!
it’s too good for outing to take this.
Hi,
I just got a used D90 and am having focusing problems.
My lens was a Sigma 28mm/1.8 when it first happened.
It was indoors and I was shooting at ISO 3200. The room was brightly lit and warm.
The lens could not focus with focusing points other than the one in the centre.
Yesterday it happened again with my Tamron 28-75/2.8 while we were out in a snow resort area. It just won’t focus properly unless i use the centre point.
I’m wondering wether anyone had any luck getting a problem like this fixed.
With the new active d-lighting and high ISO capabilities, it’s way better than my trusty old D80.
Maybe i should just sell it before the replacement comes out next month?
Hi all
My D90 is awesome. Love it. Just wanted all who read to know that this thread does have good comments too. Hope I don’t curse myself writing this positive comment on the D90. I have had good things happen with this piece of technology. I would buy it again in a heartbeat. I also recently purchased a 70-300 zoom for it and have very much been happy with that lens and the D90 as well. I’m bummed to read of others frustrations. Maybe a bit worried too. But nonetheless my D90 has been performing for me quite nicely.
I bought my D90 from Amazon.com and have it delivered to my hotel while in vacation last year. Its been awesome. I suspect the complaints emanate from factory defect rather than being a generic problem to D90s.
“CHA” error message was repaired by Nikon after 1000 photos, no issues!
Lou
I bought my D90 in May, 2010, and have never looked back. It’s a great camera – I’ve been lucky enough to have avoided any problems. Learning to use the D90 may be a daunting task, but it’s worth it.
Buy it now, as the price goes way down, in lieu of it’s newer model about to come out.
R