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		<title>By: How To: Get Started with HDR Photography (Part 3) — PaulStamatiou.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To: Get Started with HDR Photography (Part 3) — PaulStamatiou.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Range photography. In the first part I covered what HDR imaging actually is and how it works while the second part went over DSLR camera setup for taking shots necessary for the HDR imaging process, in addition to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How To: HDR Photography Basics (Part 1) — PaulStamatiou.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To: HDR Photography Basics (Part 1) — PaulStamatiou.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182358</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I guess we&#039;re in agreement for the take-away message: shoot three or more RAW images when you can, but if you can&#039;t (or the situation doesn&#039;t allow for it), then using a single RAW file converted into a pseudo-HDR image will be &quot;good enough.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I guess we&#8217;re in agreement for the take-away message: shoot three or more RAW images when you can, but if you can&#8217;t (or the situation doesn&#8217;t allow for it), then using a single RAW file converted into a pseudo-HDR image will be &#8220;good enough.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, I certainly never thought it was the best way to go. I&#039;m aware you can get much better results if you do it the &quot;proper&quot; way but I was mostly saying that you can &quot;okay&quot; pictures sometimes using only one photo. I always try the &quot;proper&quot; way if I can, but sometimes, as with your moving shots, it&#039;s just not the best result to do it that way. In those cases I&#039;ll concentrate on getting one &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; shot rather than try for three (or more).

As and as far as Photoshop&#039;s HDR functions, I have no experience there. I use Photomatix Pro all the way. If I use Photoshop at all it&#039;s in post-production after I&#039;ve tonemapped the HDR image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, I certainly never thought it was the best way to go. I&#8217;m aware you can get much better results if you do it the &#8220;proper&#8221; way but I was mostly saying that you can &#8220;okay&#8221; pictures sometimes using only one photo. I always try the &#8220;proper&#8221; way if I can, but sometimes, as with your moving shots, it&#8217;s just not the best result to do it that way. In those cases I&#8217;ll concentrate on getting one <b>good</b> shot rather than try for three (or more).</p>
<p>As and as far as Photoshop&#8217;s HDR functions, I have no experience there. I use Photomatix Pro all the way. If I use Photoshop at all it&#8217;s in post-production after I&#8217;ve tonemapped the HDR image.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182332</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Absolutely right that Photoshop isn&#039;t the best tool to create HDRs. 

Photomatix Pro is my tool of choice. However, if you haven&#039;t already done so, I also recommend looking into &lt;a href=&quot;http://fdrtools.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FDR Tools&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;ve given FDR Tools a try, and I liked the results I was getting from the trial version I used. But in the end, I chose to stick with Photomatix Pro primarily because I am happy with the results I am getting with Photomatix, and FDR Tools didn&#039;t add extra benefits over Photomatix.

Still, if one is in the market for their first HDR software, I would say it&#039;s a toss-up between Photomatix Pro and FDR Tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Absolutely right that Photoshop isn&#8217;t the best tool to create HDRs. </p>
<p>Photomatix Pro is my tool of choice. However, if you haven&#8217;t already done so, I also recommend looking into <a href="http://fdrtools.com" rel="nofollow">FDR Tools</a>. I&#8217;ve given FDR Tools a try, and I liked the results I was getting from the trial version I used. But in the end, I chose to stick with Photomatix Pro primarily because I am happy with the results I am getting with Photomatix, and FDR Tools didn&#8217;t add extra benefits over Photomatix.</p>
<p>Still, if one is in the market for their first HDR software, I would say it&#8217;s a toss-up between Photomatix Pro and FDR Tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zachary,

It is interesting to read your comment because I was going to reply before, mentioning how the approach of generating three separate files from one RAW file may be problematic.

In particular, it&#039;s not possible to create any more information from one RAW file than already exists in that file; as such, one could argue that the three files you would create (one underexposed, one metered, and one overexposed) from the one exposure isn&#039;t going to give you any benefits. I&#039;ve actually experimented with this approach for the creation of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/171846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very first HDR image&lt;/a&gt;, and I found that Photoshop can figure out when you&#039;re trying to create an HDR image from the same source file. I worked around this issue by stripping the EXIF data using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irfanview.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IrfanView&lt;/a&gt; (an awesome program for those of you who are running Windows), and then Photoshop didn&#039;t complain. Looking back at that image, however, I am confident that the result pales in comparison to what I could do with Photomatix.

Also, as Paul mentioned, using Photoshop is not the best program for the creation of HDR images. I&#039;ve been using Photomatix Pro for over two years now, and I am really happy with it. Most of the time I use three RAW files (exposed at -2EV, 0EV, and +2EV) for the creation of HDR images, but occasionally I create a pseudo-HDR image from a single RAW exposure (some examples are &lt;a href=&quot;http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/324029&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/320023&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/309144&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one of Centennial Olympic Park&lt;/a&gt;). I usually only create pseudo-HDR images for rapidly changing scenes, such as the three photos I linked to. Most of the time, if you can help it, using three (or more) RAW files is beneficial. I&#039;ve done some testing myself, and what I&#039;ve found is that if you create a pseudo-HDR image from one RAW file compared to using three RAW files, the dynamic range in the final tonemapped image (from one or three RAW files) will be similar, but the difference will be the large noise amplification in the pseudo-HDR image compared to the true HDR photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zachary,</p>
<p>It is interesting to read your comment because I was going to reply before, mentioning how the approach of generating three separate files from one RAW file may be problematic.</p>
<p>In particular, it&#8217;s not possible to create any more information from one RAW file than already exists in that file; as such, one could argue that the three files you would create (one underexposed, one metered, and one overexposed) from the one exposure isn&#8217;t going to give you any benefits. I&#8217;ve actually experimented with this approach for the creation of my <a href="http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/171846" rel="nofollow">very first HDR image</a>, and I found that Photoshop can figure out when you&#8217;re trying to create an HDR image from the same source file. I worked around this issue by stripping the EXIF data using <a href="http://www.irfanview.com/" rel="nofollow">IrfanView</a> (an awesome program for those of you who are running Windows), and then Photoshop didn&#8217;t complain. Looking back at that image, however, I am confident that the result pales in comparison to what I could do with Photomatix.</p>
<p>Also, as Paul mentioned, using Photoshop is not the best program for the creation of HDR images. I&#8217;ve been using Photomatix Pro for over two years now, and I am really happy with it. Most of the time I use three RAW files (exposed at -2EV, 0EV, and +2EV) for the creation of HDR images, but occasionally I create a pseudo-HDR image from a single RAW exposure (some examples are <a href="http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/324029" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/320023" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://elbelbelb2000.blogtog.com/archives/6297_1579073640/309144" rel="nofollow">this one of Centennial Olympic Park</a>). I usually only create pseudo-HDR images for rapidly changing scenes, such as the three photos I linked to. Most of the time, if you can help it, using three (or more) RAW files is beneficial. I&#8217;ve done some testing myself, and what I&#8217;ve found is that if you create a pseudo-HDR image from one RAW file compared to using three RAW files, the dynamic range in the final tonemapped image (from one or three RAW files) will be similar, but the difference will be the large noise amplification in the pseudo-HDR image compared to the true HDR photo.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bayliss</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182323</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bayliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a photo that I won a competition with a while back, and made the local newspaper :) - HDR of Herefordshire Cathedral -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/comphacker/3698348420/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a photo that I won a competition with a while back, and made the local newspaper :) &#8211; HDR of Herefordshire Cathedral -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/comphacker/3698348420/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/comphacker/3698348420/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gonzague</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182279</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you push the settings a bit you can get this : http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordgonz/tags/hdr/

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you push the settings a bit you can get this : <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordgonz/tags/hdr/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordgonz/tags/hdr/</a></p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182258</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go into this in lots of detail in the next article, but so far from what I&#039;ve found, Photoshop isn&#039;t the best way to go about HDR. I mean it all depends on the style you&#039;re going for, but Photoshop creates less dramatic and stunning HDR images in my point of view. Photomatix is a ~$99 USD photoshop plugin or standalone app that is pretty good at this. There are also some Gimp plugins/workflows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go into this in lots of detail in the next article, but so far from what I&#8217;ve found, Photoshop isn&#8217;t the best way to go about HDR. I mean it all depends on the style you&#8217;re going for, but Photoshop creates less dramatic and stunning HDR images in my point of view. Photomatix is a ~$99 USD photoshop plugin or standalone app that is pretty good at this. There are also some Gimp plugins/workflows.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector Ramos</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182255</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post. I didn&#039;t know my FriendFeed comments would show up here :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post. I didn&#8217;t know my FriendFeed comments would show up here :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Swan</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182250</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great writeup. I&#039;m interested in the idea of using one RAW shot for HDR effects... Never actually tried any HDR processing before, I&#039;ll have to look into some software for that. Any good Photoshop plugins to recommend for that? Or is that not the way to go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great writeup. I&#8217;m interested in the idea of using one RAW shot for HDR effects&#8230; Never actually tried any HDR processing before, I&#8217;ll have to look into some software for that. Any good Photoshop plugins to recommend for that? Or is that not the way to go?</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Jones</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-get-started-with-hdr-photography-part-2#comment-182249</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul thanks for the mention.

Although since I made that comment I&#039;ve experimented with it a little more. Although I mentioned using Photoshop or something to take a RAW and generate three different photos out of it (presumably to JPEG), lately I&#039;ve just been loading the RAW straight into Photomatix, which will automatically make a psuedo-HDR photo. Obviously if you&#039;re using another app for your HDR you may need to actually make the three separate photos.

I&#039;ve gotten a few good results from that method. My current camera (in the market for a new DSLR) is a Fujifilm FinePix S5100 I inherited from my dad. It&#039;s basically a glorified 4MP point-and-shoot but I&#039;ve gotten very good results out of it. It has the capability for RAW built-in (although it&#039;s buried in the settings) and also has auto-bracketing. I&#039;ve had better results just taking one RAW than trying to find good auto-bracketing settings. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharytamas/3753820366/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This photo&lt;/a&gt; was made using this technique. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharytamas/3751657752/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another photo&lt;/a&gt; was made with the same idea but I used different settings in Photomatix which gave the photo a whole other mood.

Still trying new things, though I haven&#039;t gotten around to photography as much lately. Again, thanks for the mention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul thanks for the mention.</p>
<p>Although since I made that comment I&#8217;ve experimented with it a little more. Although I mentioned using Photoshop or something to take a RAW and generate three different photos out of it (presumably to JPEG), lately I&#8217;ve just been loading the RAW straight into Photomatix, which will automatically make a psuedo-HDR photo. Obviously if you&#8217;re using another app for your HDR you may need to actually make the three separate photos.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten a few good results from that method. My current camera (in the market for a new DSLR) is a Fujifilm FinePix S5100 I inherited from my dad. It&#8217;s basically a glorified 4MP point-and-shoot but I&#8217;ve gotten very good results out of it. It has the capability for RAW built-in (although it&#8217;s buried in the settings) and also has auto-bracketing. I&#8217;ve had better results just taking one RAW than trying to find good auto-bracketing settings. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharytamas/3753820366/" rel="nofollow">This photo</a> was made using this technique. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharytamas/3751657752/" rel="nofollow">Another photo</a> was made with the same idea but I used different settings in Photomatix which gave the photo a whole other mood.</p>
<p>Still trying new things, though I haven&#8217;t gotten around to photography as much lately. Again, thanks for the mention!</p>
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		<title>By: Hector Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Canon hack tip. I had read about this mod but haven&#039;t got around to installing it. I have an IS750 P&amp;S which is perfect for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Canon hack tip. I had read about this mod but haven&#8217;t got around to installing it. I have an IS750 P&amp;S which is perfect for this.</p>
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