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		<title>By: k00pa</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-182996</link>
		<dc:creator>k00pa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That htop image is awesome :D</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Burkett</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-180303</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Burkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul - great post!  I hadn&#039;t heard of htop until your post, but after looking at it, I&#039;m hooked. :)

Here is an old post of mine from two years ago.  Paul&#039;s post has a lot more current info in it, but this might be of interest/value to others:

http://www.scottburkett.com/index.php/technology/2007-01-08/scaling-your-technology-with-your-business.html

Cheers.
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul &#8211; great post!  I hadn&#8217;t heard of htop until your post, but after looking at it, I&#8217;m hooked. :)</p>
<p>Here is an old post of mine from two years ago.  Paul&#8217;s post has a lot more current info in it, but this might be of interest/value to others:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scottburkett.com/index.php/technology/2007-01-08/scaling-your-technology-with-your-business.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottburkett.com/index.php/technology/2007-01-08/scaling-your-technology-with-your-business.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers.<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: oneighturbo</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-180270</link>
		<dc:creator>oneighturbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just added Skribit back to the site! Hope to get some traction on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just added Skribit back to the site! Hope to get some traction on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175470</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Malcolm. 

1) I&#039;m kind of in a similar situation, I work from home by myself all day, but I&#039;m always wired up via Campfire to Calvin so it&#039;s very easy to bounce ideas back and forth and get quick feedback/help. Definitely more efficient. 

2) Well I finished all the requirements and submitted them.. so we&#039;ll see what happens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Malcolm. </p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m kind of in a similar situation, I work from home by myself all day, but I&#8217;m always wired up via Campfire to Calvin so it&#8217;s very easy to bounce ideas back and forth and get quick feedback/help. Definitely more efficient. </p>
<p>2) Well I finished all the requirements and submitted them.. so we&#8217;ll see what happens!</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Jones</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175469</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Fantastic article. As I told you before man, these blogs are really inspiring to us guys with our own start ups. I&#039;ve been working on mine since January, and hopefully the private beta version will be out by May (fingers crossed), so I haven&#039;t had to deal with scaling yet. However, I know that will be the case in the future, and it&#039;s nice to know that I can come back here to read up on where to start. 

Couple questions:

1. Right now I am a solo act...How do you like working with a team? 
2. How did the GRA/TAG Business Launch competition go?

Like I said, love these posts. Keep them up!

Malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Fantastic article. As I told you before man, these blogs are really inspiring to us guys with our own start ups. I&#8217;ve been working on mine since January, and hopefully the private beta version will be out by May (fingers crossed), so I haven&#8217;t had to deal with scaling yet. However, I know that will be the case in the future, and it&#8217;s nice to know that I can come back here to read up on where to start. </p>
<p>Couple questions:</p>
<p>1. Right now I am a solo act&#8230;How do you like working with a team?<br />
2. How did the GRA/TAG Business Launch competition go?</p>
<p>Like I said, love these posts. Keep them up!</p>
<p>Malcolm</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175407</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - although scaling is both a software and hardware issue. Upgrading hardware is cheap and pays off now. Software isn&#039;t and keeps paying off. You need to do both when you are able to. ;D Reminds me of that demotivation poster for procrastination: &quot;hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8211; although scaling is both a software and hardware issue. Upgrading hardware is cheap and pays off now. Software isn&#8217;t and keeps paying off. You need to do both when you are able to. ;D Reminds me of that demotivation poster for procrastination: &#8220;hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should a cost/benefit analysis between investing a lot of time in reducing memory usage and just buying more RAM. Hardware is cheap; your time is not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should a cost/benefit analysis between investing a lot of time in reducing memory usage and just buying more RAM. Hardware is cheap; your time is not!</p>
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		<title>By: lewro</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175350</link>
		<dc:creator>lewro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the problems you are trying to solve sounds like you have good traffic so your project is going the right direction. Wish you like with the biz plan. Fingers cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the problems you are trying to solve sounds like you have good traffic so your project is going the right direction. Wish you like with the biz plan. Fingers cross.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175312</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joel - thanks for the comment. Media Temple has been helping us out on the cost front with Skribit during our startup phase and it&#039;s been working out really well. I&#039;ve been on (mt) for years and really love how I get the control I need, root access and all.. but I can call them up when I bork something haha.

That being said, if we had to host elsewhere and had the money, I
would definitely opt for a complete EC2 setup. I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://paulstamatiou.com/2008/04/05/how-to-getting-started-with-amazon-ec2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tinkered with ec2 in
the past before&lt;/a&gt; and they&#039;ve done some amazing things in the last year that make it a
great platform.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joel &#8211; thanks for the comment. Media Temple has been helping us out on the cost front with Skribit during our startup phase and it&#8217;s been working out really well. I&#8217;ve been on (mt) for years and really love how I get the control I need, root access and all.. but I can call them up when I bork something haha.</p>
<p>That being said, if we had to host elsewhere and had the money, I<br />
would definitely opt for a complete EC2 setup. I&#8217;ve <a href="http://paulstamatiou.com/2008/04/05/how-to-getting-started-with-amazon-ec2" rel="nofollow">tinkered with ec2 in<br />
the past before</a> and they&#8217;ve done some amazing things in the last year that make it a<br />
great platform.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered using Slicehost for your dedicated VPS?  Your current hosting provider MT&#039;s $50 plan seems pretty expensive for 256 MB RAM --- you can get the same thing for $20 at Slicehost.

Also, what about Amazon EC2?  You can scale easily with them and with their Elastic Block Store (EBS) it&#039;s easy to operate MySQL with simple backups of disk-based data stores.

Anyway, Skribit is cool, good luck!  Thanks for your blog on scaling, it&#039;s interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered using Slicehost for your dedicated VPS?  Your current hosting provider MT&#8217;s $50 plan seems pretty expensive for 256 MB RAM &#8212; you can get the same thing for $20 at Slicehost.</p>
<p>Also, what about Amazon EC2?  You can scale easily with them and with their Elastic Block Store (EBS) it&#8217;s easy to operate MySQL with simple backups of disk-based data stores.</p>
<p>Anyway, Skribit is cool, good luck!  Thanks for your blog on scaling, it&#8217;s interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie - I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll hit a point where scaling is a huge issue and that will have us reconsider how some things are built. That being said, for polling issues we have been looking at Rails Metal http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/12/17/introducing-rails-metal for the near future.

Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie &#8211; I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll hit a point where scaling is a huge issue and that will have us reconsider how some things are built. That being said, for polling issues we have been looking at Rails Metal <a href="http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/12/17/introducing-rails-metal" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/12/17/introducing-rails-metal</a> for the near future.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175309</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I mentioned it a bit later in the post, but our next setup is definitely gonna have Passenger &amp; Ruby Enterprise. I can&#039;t wait to get it all set up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I mentioned it a bit later in the post, but our next setup is definitely gonna have Passenger &#038; Ruby Enterprise. I can&#8217;t wait to get it all set up!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175308</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul. I&#039;m just curious if you&#039;ve ever considered rewriting some of your backend code in another language, such as Scala? 

I know Twitter has moved their message queuing system to Scala because Ruby just couldn&#039;t handle the load. Also, the creator of the Lift framework (a Scala web framework) claimed to get a 20x performance boost using Lift instead of Rails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul. I&#8217;m just curious if you&#8217;ve ever considered rewriting some of your backend code in another language, such as Scala? </p>
<p>I know Twitter has moved their message queuing system to Scala because Ruby just couldn&#8217;t handle the load. Also, the creator of the Lift framework (a Scala web framework) claimed to get a 20x performance boost using Lift instead of Rails.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175281</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our monit requries HTTP auth to use it but isnt locked to certain IPs as multiple ppl here need access to it.. but I&#039;m sure that can be arranged too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our monit requries HTTP auth to use it but isnt locked to certain IPs as multiple ppl here need access to it.. but I&#8217;m sure that can be arranged too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175280</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Paul.  I looked into using Monit but was concerned about using the console over the internet from a security standpoint.  Did you lock down access to the Monit console and only allow your specific IP address?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Paul.  I looked into using Monit but was concerned about using the console over the internet from a security standpoint.  Did you lock down access to the Monit console and only allow your specific IP address?</p>
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		<title>By: Knox Massey</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175275</link>
		<dc:creator>Knox Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep biz plan simple. Tell what it is, what it does, and who you are (founders). Keep buzzwords to a minimum. (When you find an advisor/investor that knows the tech, use them then.) Follow directions for GRA, that&#039;s what they&#039;ll be looking for. You&#039;ll be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep biz plan simple. Tell what it is, what it does, and who you are (founders). Keep buzzwords to a minimum. (When you find an advisor/investor that knows the tech, use them then.) Follow directions for GRA, that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ll be looking for. You&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: dabent</title>
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		<dc:creator>dabent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;several million widget pageviews/month&quot;

That&#039;s pretty cool!  I&#039;m really liking the way you&#039;re adding to Skribbit all the time. I likely need to upgrade my widget.

So are you daring enough to show your business plan to the word?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;several million widget pageviews/month&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty cool!  I&#8217;m really liking the way you&#8217;re adding to Skribbit all the time. I likely need to upgrade my widget.</p>
<p>So are you daring enough to show your business plan to the word?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Boulton</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175267</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Have you considered switching to Apache, Passenger and Enterprise Ruby? I think you&#039;ll end up being rewarded by the benefits - no more watching for Mongrel processes gone rogue etc, lower overall resources &amp; memory usage, pages being served up quick etc. Have recently switched a few things over, and have really started noticing the benefits under high load.

Also curious if you&#039;ve looked in to making sure that you don&#039;t have bottlenecks with your MySQL configuration? (that is, it&#039;s properly configured for the amount of resources you want allocated to MySQL). For that, things like mytop, Maatkit, mysqlsla and the fantastic mysqltuner.

Of course, there&#039;s no doubt you need more than 1.3 GB ram - I&#039;d settle for no less than 4 GB these days. Especially with the amount of dynamic content you&#039;re serving up.

Have you looked in to totally dedicated machines? For the cost you&#039;re paying with MT at the moment (assuming you don&#039;t have some sort of deal with them ;)), you should be able to pick up a pretty decently spec&#039;d server from SoftLayer - and if you use their YIPP promo code, double the RAM and HDD space for nothing.

(Keep up the blog posts like these - love them and love hearing about what other people are using)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Have you considered switching to Apache, Passenger and Enterprise Ruby? I think you&#8217;ll end up being rewarded by the benefits &#8211; no more watching for Mongrel processes gone rogue etc, lower overall resources &amp; memory usage, pages being served up quick etc. Have recently switched a few things over, and have really started noticing the benefits under high load.</p>
<p>Also curious if you&#8217;ve looked in to making sure that you don&#8217;t have bottlenecks with your MySQL configuration? (that is, it&#8217;s properly configured for the amount of resources you want allocated to MySQL). For that, things like mytop, Maatkit, mysqlsla and the fantastic mysqltuner.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s no doubt you need more than 1.3 GB ram &#8211; I&#8217;d settle for no less than 4 GB these days. Especially with the amount of dynamic content you&#8217;re serving up.</p>
<p>Have you looked in to totally dedicated machines? For the cost you&#8217;re paying with MT at the moment (assuming you don&#8217;t have some sort of deal with them ;)), you should be able to pick up a pretty decently spec&#8217;d server from SoftLayer &#8211; and if you use their YIPP promo code, double the RAM and HDD space for nothing.</p>
<p>(Keep up the blog posts like these &#8211; love them and love hearing about what other people are using)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175261</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the only full-timer on Skribit and Calvin/@cyu is also a co-founder but works part-time now. We also have @lance as our ever helpful and resourceful advisor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the only full-timer on Skribit and Calvin/@cyu is also a co-founder but works part-time now. We also have @lance as our ever helpful and resourceful advisor.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah we are running a few mongrels.. we temporarily take down a few when we really get memory constrained. Skribit serves a lot of widgets (several million widget pageviews/month) so the extra mongrels really come in handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we are running a few mongrels.. we temporarily take down a few when we really get memory constrained. Skribit serves a lot of widgets (several million widget pageviews/month) so the extra mongrels really come in handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you running 12 mongrels on one server?  If so, that&#039;s the cause of your memory problem.  You could probably get by on 3 instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you running 12 mongrels on one server?  If so, that&#8217;s the cause of your memory problem.  You could probably get by on 3 instances.</p>
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		<title>By: M Dolon</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/full-time-startup-skribit-week-12-scaling#comment-175258</link>
		<dc:creator>M Dolon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, glad to see Skribit is going well.  Quick question - how many people are currently working on it at the moment?

I&#039;m currently working on two startups - one that is online-based and the other a real world, social entrepreneurial project.  The latter is part of a business incubation program and we&#039;ve spent the past several months doing a feasibility analysis, business model, financial model and writing the business plan.  In other words, I feel your pain man!

We are applying to some local business plan competitions too - best of luck with yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul, glad to see Skribit is going well.  Quick question &#8211; how many people are currently working on it at the moment?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently working on two startups &#8211; one that is online-based and the other a real world, social entrepreneurial project.  The latter is part of a business incubation program and we&#8217;ve spent the past several months doing a feasibility analysis, business model, financial model and writing the business plan.  In other words, I feel your pain man!</p>
<p>We are applying to some local business plan competitions too &#8211; best of luck with yours!</p>
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