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		<title>By: Seat 29E &#187; Is Habari Taking Over?</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-155927</link>
		<dc:creator>Seat 29E &#187; Is Habari Taking Over?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2.5 is set to be released soon, and it will definitely shake up both communities. There are a few informative Habari posts for adopters, but most of them prove to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2.5 is set to be released soon, and it will definitely shake up both communities. There are a few informative Habari posts for adopters, but most of them prove to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kelly</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-151410</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as a complete wordpress junkie and a complete code clean freak, this def tears me in two.  One half of me loves the familiar wordpress.  And now that I know it, I can wield the wordpress engine to make, pretty much any type of site I want.  On the other hand, I know its full of not-so-fast code and def gets a little goofy at time.  For now I think i&#039;ll stick with WP 2.3 BUT i will def keep my eye on this.  

In reality i&#039;m looking for a framework that will be a little nicer to live with with categories, sub categories, tags, image uploads...etc.  But without the junk of say expression engine.  And a little more done for me than say, cake.  Anyone have any suggestions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as a complete wordpress junkie and a complete code clean freak, this def tears me in two.  One half of me loves the familiar wordpress.  And now that I know it, I can wield the wordpress engine to make, pretty much any type of site I want.  On the other hand, I know its full of not-so-fast code and def gets a little goofy at time.  For now I think i&#8217;ll stick with WP 2.3 BUT i will def keep my eye on this.  </p>
<p>In reality i&#8217;m looking for a framework that will be a little nicer to live with with categories, sub categories, tags, image uploads&#8230;etc.  But without the junk of say expression engine.  And a little more done for me than say, cake.  Anyone have any suggestions</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Hufstedler</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-137511</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla Hufstedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite impressed, actually. It&#039;s just simple, and it works.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hauntedpalace/1153135875/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite impressed, actually. It&#8217;s just simple, and it works.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hauntedpalace/1153135875/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/hauntedpalace/1153135875/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-136478</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a few chats with Chris J. Davis, about Habari, and I think that in a few month&#039;s time it will be matured enough to run on a production blog. Right now Habari is missing lots of features and is not 100% safe, but once version 1 comes out, I for one will not be using Wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a few chats with Chris J. Davis, about Habari, and I think that in a few month&#8217;s time it will be matured enough to run on a production blog. Right now Habari is missing lots of features and is not 100% safe, but once version 1 comes out, I for one will not be using Wordpress.</p>
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		<title>By: HitMan</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-134545</link>
		<dc:creator>HitMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habari is looking good as a alternative for..umm if I can say that &quot;bored&quot; users.

It&#039;s quite coming from the &quot;future&quot; [the short one] and I think that timing is really important while releasing such a platform [for bloggers e.t.c.]

[offtopic]
By the way: Habari is also used in Greek Language and I didn&#039;t knew it comes from Swahili [see Google code]. I think the roots of this word are Turkish [haber] but anyway.. :p [It has the same meaning everywhere]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habari is looking good as a alternative for..umm if I can say that &#8220;bored&#8221; users.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite coming from the &#8220;future&#8221; [the short one] and I think that timing is really important while releasing such a platform [for bloggers e.t.c.]</p>
<p>[offtopic]<br />
By the way: Habari is also used in Greek Language and I didn&#8217;t knew it comes from Swahili [see Google code]. I think the roots of this word are Turkish [haber] but anyway.. :p [It has the same meaning everywhere]<br />
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133963</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up on Habari. As much as people talk about the famous five minute install I don&#039;t anyone (or more likely the average blogger) has only taken five minutes to install it. I think most bloggers use the auto install of Fanastico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up on Habari. As much as people talk about the famous five minute install I don&#8217;t anyone (or more likely the average blogger) has only taken five minutes to install it. I think most bloggers use the auto install of Fanastico.</p>
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		<title>By: David Moore</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133916</link>
		<dc:creator>David Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks great i will give it a try in my sandbox</description>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133866</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For folks on shared hosting without access to PHP5, I encourage you to investigate the &lt;a&gt;GoPHP5&lt;/a&gt; initiative.  Tell your hosting providers about it, and encourage them to upgrade.

Abhijit: we feel strongly that Habari&#039;s use of newer technologies will greatly improve our functionality.  As an example, our use of object oriented development means that plugins can extend a base Plugin class, and immediately inherit a lot of core functionality, saving the plugin author from the tedium of recreating the same methods with every plugin they create.  The same (hopefully) will hold true with our plans for media management: a base Media class can be extended by different media handlers (images, videos, audio, etc) and each of these media handlers can immediately benefit from not having to reinvent basic storage functions.

Pawka: to the average user, there ought not be too many differences.  I mean, WordPress, Drupal, TextPattern, and Habari all essentially do the same thing: they let people publish web content using their web browser.  We hope that Habari will be intuitive and easy-to-use for everyone, yet be powerful and extensible enough to create unique solutions through the use of plugins.  Remember that Habari is not yet ready for prime time, so drawing comparisons between it and other tools is not a particularly useful exercise at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For folks on shared hosting without access to PHP5, I encourage you to investigate the <a>GoPHP5</a> initiative.  Tell your hosting providers about it, and encourage them to upgrade.</p>
<p>Abhijit: we feel strongly that Habari&#8217;s use of newer technologies will greatly improve our functionality.  As an example, our use of object oriented development means that plugins can extend a base Plugin class, and immediately inherit a lot of core functionality, saving the plugin author from the tedium of recreating the same methods with every plugin they create.  The same (hopefully) will hold true with our plans for media management: a base Media class can be extended by different media handlers (images, videos, audio, etc) and each of these media handlers can immediately benefit from not having to reinvent basic storage functions.</p>
<p>Pawka: to the average user, there ought not be too many differences.  I mean, WordPress, Drupal, TextPattern, and Habari all essentially do the same thing: they let people publish web content using their web browser.  We hope that Habari will be intuitive and easy-to-use for everyone, yet be powerful and extensible enough to create unique solutions through the use of plugins.  Remember that Habari is not yet ready for prime time, so drawing comparisons between it and other tools is not a particularly useful exercise at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Is domination of WordPress and FeedBurner good?</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133854</link>
		<dc:creator>Is domination of WordPress and FeedBurner good?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not paid. Also, there are alternatives to WordPress, like the new kid on the block - Habari(read a review from Paul Stamatiou, an enthusiast in webdev). Habari is not yet ready, but is an option should WordPress die off. But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not paid. Also, there are alternatives to WordPress, like the new kid on the block &#8211; Habari(read a review from Paul Stamatiou, an enthusiast in webdev). Habari is not yet ready, but is an option should WordPress die off. But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JGriggs</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133829</link>
		<dc:creator>JGriggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review Paul. It&#039;s always nice to see what&#039;s out there even if it won&#039;t run on my shared host with archaic php4/mysql3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Paul. It&#8217;s always nice to see what&#8217;s out there even if it won&#8217;t run on my shared host with archaic php4/mysql3.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133818</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly like Daniel, I&#039;m also on a hosting company that doesn&#039;t support PHP5 with PDO... not yet anyway, I fired off an email to find out when they are upgrading seeing it was announced that PHP 4 will be discontinued.

Cheers for checking it out Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly like Daniel, I&#8217;m also on a hosting company that doesn&#8217;t support PHP5 with PDO&#8230; not yet anyway, I fired off an email to find out when they are upgrading seeing it was announced that PHP 4 will be discontinued.</p>
<p>Cheers for checking it out Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: GuillaumeB</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133792</link>
		<dc:creator>GuillaumeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well honestly I&#039;ve gotten tired of tweaking PHP lines, of hacking JavaScripts, of developing Ajax websites, of setting file permissions to make your Wordpress plugins finally work, of creating databases to add a new feature to my weblog, of modifying my .htaccess file? of playing around with my CSS all day long to figure out what themes I really want to use... So it&#039;s not like something like Habari &#039;s gonna make my life much simpler.

Believe it or not after 3 or 4 years of wasting my time on web dev stuff,  I&#039;ve ditched my Flickr Pro account and canceled my web host. I moved to .Mac + iWeb + web galleries... far less cheaper, far more storage and...it just works. Sometimes the simplest tools are not always targeting noobs but people who just want to actually &quot;use&quot; their tools and not tweak them. I would have jumped on Habari 6 months ago though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well honestly I&#8217;ve gotten tired of tweaking PHP lines, of hacking JavaScripts, of developing Ajax websites, of setting file permissions to make your Wordpress plugins finally work, of creating databases to add a new feature to my weblog, of modifying my .htaccess file? of playing around with my CSS all day long to figure out what themes I really want to use&#8230; So it&#8217;s not like something like Habari &#8217;s gonna make my life much simpler.</p>
<p>Believe it or not after 3 or 4 years of wasting my time on web dev stuff,  I&#8217;ve ditched my Flickr Pro account and canceled my web host. I moved to .Mac + iWeb + web galleries&#8230; far less cheaper, far more storage and&#8230;it just works. Sometimes the simplest tools are not always targeting noobs but people who just want to actually &#8220;use&#8221; their tools and not tweak them. I would have jumped on Habari 6 months ago though.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133789</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the ideas behind Habari - but as an shared-hosting user I can&#039;t even try it because of the need for PHP5 with PDO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the ideas behind Habari &#8211; but as an shared-hosting user I can&#8217;t even try it because of the need for PHP5 with PDO.</p>
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		<title>By: Pawka</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133769</link>
		<dc:creator>Pawka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What cons and pros Habari vs. Wordpress? (I&#039;m not talking about huge Wordpress themes and plugins collection).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What cons and pros Habari vs. Wordpress? (I&#8217;m not talking about huge Wordpress themes and plugins collection).</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit Nadgouda</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133719</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhijit Nadgouda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have been tracking Habari. I like that they are using the latest technologies, which I believe have a benefit. But the critical factor will be if those technologies make it better for the blogger, in terms of ease, simplicity, security and performance. It is an important work to track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been tracking Habari. I like that they are using the latest technologies, which I believe have a benefit. But the critical factor will be if those technologies make it better for the blogger, in terms of ease, simplicity, security and performance. It is an important work to track.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133713</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, thanks for taking the time to give Habari a shot.  We&#039;re very enthusiastic about our project, and we think it has value to add even for people who are familiar with software like WordPress and Textpattern.

Regarding our not-quite-5-minute-install, I&#039;ve heard of WP installs taking that short a time, but I&#039;ve also heard of them being much more involved.  One of the things we&#039;re trying to address with our installer (perhaps complete in version 0.3) is that it gives you feedback when it notices that something is wrong, rather than just throwing inexplicable errors.  Clicking the questionmark on the page in your screenshot of the installer will reveal inline help for every field, and eventually links to the bundled documentation.  We&#039;re really proud of these types of refinements to the user experience in Habari.

To address Geof&#039;s question, Habari is designed to be good blog software.  To make it &quot;good&quot; it has to be built on a good foundation.  I think people will be pleased by what our foundation will let you do beyond blogging.

Thanks again for the trial, and I hope you&#039;ll give our next release a whirl when it&#039;s ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, thanks for taking the time to give Habari a shot.  We&#8217;re very enthusiastic about our project, and we think it has value to add even for people who are familiar with software like WordPress and Textpattern.</p>
<p>Regarding our not-quite-5-minute-install, I&#8217;ve heard of WP installs taking that short a time, but I&#8217;ve also heard of them being much more involved.  One of the things we&#8217;re trying to address with our installer (perhaps complete in version 0.3) is that it gives you feedback when it notices that something is wrong, rather than just throwing inexplicable errors.  Clicking the questionmark on the page in your screenshot of the installer will reveal inline help for every field, and eventually links to the bundled documentation.  We&#8217;re really proud of these types of refinements to the user experience in Habari.</p>
<p>To address Geof&#8217;s question, Habari is designed to be good blog software.  To make it &#8220;good&#8221; it has to be built on a good foundation.  I think people will be pleased by what our foundation will let you do beyond blogging.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the trial, and I hope you&#8217;ll give our next release a whirl when it&#8217;s ready.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133697</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The navigation is a huge plus, but WordPress still takes the cake for now.  I can really see this going somewhere in the future though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The navigation is a huge plus, but WordPress still takes the cake for now.  I can really see this going somewhere in the future though!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133696</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only messed with Textpattern once and don&#039;t know enough about it to even talk about it. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only messed with Textpattern once and don&#8217;t know enough about it to even talk about it. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Swihart</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133694</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Swihart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why the utter disregard for Textpattern, Paul, I&#039;d be interested to hear what you think about it compared to Wordpress / Habari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why the utter disregard for Textpattern, Paul, I&#8217;d be interested to hear what you think about it compared to Wordpress / Habari.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof Harries</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/first-impressions-habari-blogging-platform#comment-133683</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof Harries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would you rate Habari as a general content management system, like Wordpress can be used for? Is it still just for blogging or can it go further?</description>
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