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		<title>By: How To: Live the Cloud Life - PaulStamatiou.com</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-166999</link>
		<dc:creator>How To: Live the Cloud Life - PaulStamatiou.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-127002</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terence:Â I tried backing up another album I bought on the iTunes store today, using version 1.0.7.

The application now runs much faster and Iâ€™ve noticed a lot of improvements to the interface.

Now what would be nice... would be if online streaming and the ability to listen to your music from any local iTunes setup.  I suspect that wouldnâ€™t make much sense financially for those with S3 accounts because of the bandwidth issues.  mp3tunes offers this and other features, albeit for a slightly higher price...

When I get my new desktop later this week, Iâ€™ll be testing out the Restore function... but Bandwagon looks as if itâ€™s on the right track...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terence:Â I tried backing up another album I bought on the iTunes store today, using version 1.0.7.</p>
<p>The application now runs much faster and Iâ€™ve noticed a lot of improvements to the interface.</p>
<p>Now what would be nice&#8230; would be if online streaming and the ability to listen to your music from any local iTunes setup.  I suspect that wouldnâ€™t make much sense financially for those with S3 accounts because of the bandwidth issues.  mp3tunes offers this and other features, albeit for a slightly higher price&#8230;</p>
<p>When I get my new desktop later this week, Iâ€™ll be testing out the Restore function&#8230; but Bandwagon looks as if itâ€™s on the right track&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126921</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terence - 90kB/s is actually pretty fast. Most US Cable internet service providers I have dealt with have a max upload near 40-50kB/s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terence &#8211; 90kB/s is actually pretty fast. Most US Cable internet service providers I have dealt with have a max upload near 40-50kB/s.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Pua</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126919</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Pua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Astorg: I do about 90kBps (from Manila, PH) upload using Bandwagon.  Should be faster stateside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Astorg: I do about 90kBps (from Manila, PH) upload using Bandwagon.  Should be faster stateside.</p>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126799</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terence: Well yes, it was about ten time slower, like about 40kb.  I&#039;ve actually uploaded the whole iTunes library now, but I will be adding other tracks eventually.  What what the normal uploading speed be on a fast ADSL connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terence: Well yes, it was about ten time slower, like about 40kb.  I&#8217;ve actually uploaded the whole iTunes library now, but I will be adding other tracks eventually.  What what the normal uploading speed be on a fast ADSL connection?</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Pua</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126772</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Pua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Astorg: that does sound surprising.  Do you remember the speed at which Bandwagon was uploading say an mp3 file?  Perhaps you can add a new track...we want to make sure it&#039;s not a bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Astorg: that does sound surprising.  Do you remember the speed at which Bandwagon was uploading say an mp3 file?  Perhaps you can add a new track&#8230;we want to make sure it&#8217;s not a bug.</p>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126761</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terence: I didn&#039;t conduct a comparison with uploading my iTunes library via JD (after all, i only need to store it once), which is why I said &lt;i&gt;ceteris paribus&lt;/i&gt; it takes much longer.

But To give you just one example, i just uploaded a 5.5Mb video (see it live on http://www.vimeo.com/clip:207947) to S3 via JD.  the speed was 568kb/sec so it took just &lt;i&gt;ten seconds&lt;/i&gt;.

Even allowing for the complexities of storing metadata, I&#039;m surprised that using the same connection, uploading 40GB of data to S3 via Bandwagon should take three weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terence: I didn&#8217;t conduct a comparison with uploading my iTunes library via JD (after all, i only need to store it once), which is why I said <i>ceteris paribus</i> it takes much longer.</p>
<p>But To give you just one example, i just uploaded a 5.5Mb video (see it live on <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/clip:207947)" rel="nofollow">http://www.vimeo.com/clip:207947)</a> to S3 via JD.  the speed was 568kb/sec so it took just <i>ten seconds</i>.</p>
<p>Even allowing for the complexities of storing metadata, I&#8217;m surprised that using the same connection, uploading 40GB of data to S3 via Bandwagon should take three weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Pua</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126757</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Pua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Astorg: that does sound strange.  Speed should be the same as JD.  How long did it take you to upload your itunes lib via JD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Astorg: that does sound strange.  Speed should be the same as JD.  How long did it take you to upload your itunes lib via JD?</p>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126236</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: Fair enough, though the deterioration in performance compared with standard S3 uploads is so substantial that I would never have imagined it was entirely explained by the complexities of handling the metadata.

But, as I say, I&#039;m definitely not complaining, the uploading was mindblowingly slow but it is sweet to go to bed at night knowing that my music is safely up there, somewhere.  The real test, restoring, will come in ten days time when I replace my old G5 with a new iMac...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: Fair enough, though the deterioration in performance compared with standard S3 uploads is so substantial that I would never have imagined it was entirely explained by the complexities of handling the metadata.</p>
<p>But, as I say, I&#8217;m definitely not complaining, the uploading was mindblowingly slow but it is sweet to go to bed at night knowing that my music is safely up there, somewhere.  The real test, restoring, will come in ten days time when I replace my old G5 with a new iMac&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126234</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Astorg - In addition to just uploading files to S3, Bandwagon &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ridethebandwagon.com/2007/06/01/why-monthly-charges-instead-of-a-one-time-fee/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;backs up metadata&lt;/a&gt; on their own servers, hence the fee in addition to S3. 

That&#039;s my guess for the extra time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Astorg &#8211; In addition to just uploading files to S3, Bandwagon <a href="http://blog.ridethebandwagon.com/2007/06/01/why-monthly-charges-instead-of-a-one-time-fee/" rel="nofollow">backs up metadata</a> on their own servers, hence the fee in addition to S3. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my guess for the extra time.</p>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126233</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: Very true... and I agree it&#039;s still worth it just for the value of the backup.  But I can&#039;t understand why it takes noticeably longer, ceteris paribus, to upload via Bandwagon than to S3 via Jungledisk, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: Very true&#8230; and I agree it&#8217;s still worth it just for the value of the backup.  But I can&#8217;t understand why it takes noticeably longer, ceteris paribus, to upload via Bandwagon than to S3 via Jungledisk, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126232</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Astorg - restoring won&#039;t take nearly as long. ADSL stands for asynchronous dsl meaning your download is faster than your upload. Regardless of the speed though, I wouldn&#039;t mind it if I lost all of my music and needed it restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Astorg &#8211; restoring won&#8217;t take nearly as long. ADSL stands for asynchronous dsl meaning your download is faster than your upload. Regardless of the speed though, I wouldn&#8217;t mind it if I lost all of my music and needed it restored.</p>
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		<title>By: Astorg</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126229</link>
		<dc:creator>Astorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 40Gb of music took three weeks on an ADSL connection... I wasn&#039;t impressed, especially as, if I want to restore it it will presumably take tetheame time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 40Gb of music took three weeks on an ADSL connection&#8230; I wasn&#8217;t impressed, especially as, if I want to restore it it will presumably take tetheame time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandwagon DIY Launches</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126199</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandwagon DIY Launches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s another [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Moore</title>
		<link>http://paulstamatiou.com/bandwagon-diy-emerges-from-closed-beta#comment-126166</link>
		<dc:creator>David Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice. Can use brits get S3 given its through amazon.COM?

I personally use mozy.com...... unlimited storage for $4.95 a month. If you want a free 2 gig account give me a shout Paul because i have a code that gives you extra space free.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice. Can use brits get S3 given its through amazon.COM?</p>
<p>I personally use mozy.com&#8230;&#8230; unlimited storage for $4.95 a month. If you want a free 2 gig account give me a shout Paul because i have a code that gives you extra space free.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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